A Question on dwarf mutations in general...

10 years ago

Hy there folks :)!

Today i'm interested in the following question, i'm sure, some of you old broomers could help me out.

How many years have a suspicious- looking part of a plant to grow until one can be sure, that it is a real, stable dwarf? And not just a shoot from a weak bud or something else...

Background of the question is my P. sylvestris 'Nisbeth Aurea'. Purchased in the Winter of 2013/ 2014 as a potplant from poland (hey, that rhymes ^^...), and mainly the leader has grown very poorly in 2014. So far not unusal for the acclimatizing phase, but in 2015 the growth of the leader, and one sidely twig, were still kinda dwarfy, whereas the rest of the plant has shown a normal growth.

The dwarfy looking part have finer and shorter needles- the ones from 2015 just about half the length and thickness of the normal needles. The buds are healthy and good formed too, but also just about roughly half the size compared to the normal ones on the rest of the plant.

I am now not so presumptuous to think, that I of all people should have the incredible fortune of getting a new dwarf/ broom form right out of the blue and of a just- bought plant, but to my assurance and chances, yeah, i just want to ask, how long i have to wait and to observe until i can be sure- or not...

Thanks for every advice,

Andreas

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severnside

10 years ago

How long did 'Dax's Stunna' take to become obvious Dax? I imagine it was quite rapid as it's so tight. Any new pics of that doozy?

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gardener365
10 years ago
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I would wait several years to know one way or another. When it's completely obvious and that has no time-table, then you proceed further.

Dax
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gardener365
10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago
I found it at the size of a baseball at the tip of a branch with nothing else on it at nearly ground level. It was an obvious one.

It's hacked to shreds right now. I cut real hard on it this winter to send quantity to a few folks.

Dax

P.s. 'Dax's Stunner'
severnside
10 years ago
It is a wonderful broom, glad it's safe and dispursed.

I'm now grafting spares of my most cherished plants. In fact for the really top end ones now on, they'll only go in the hostile ground once I've got reproductions.

Btw, I was buying aristata yesterday and did a lot of research into them. Obviously a huge proportion are Jerry Morris. Your 'Sticky Whiskers', was it selected from a bunch of unknown JM seedlings? I forget the details. That sounds like great fun, even with the sad end. Are you going to do more selection as well as grafting?
gardener365
10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago
I have another (yes) Jerry Morris W.B. aristata seedling that has been exceptionally slow. It's gotta be six-years old now and not more than 5" of foliage above the stem.

I'm pretty well done (for now) growing W.B. seedlings. I like to mix it up now with deciduous and sometimes coniferous seeds. I'm growing Viburnums from seed this year; Japanese maples; American beech; a lot of oaks/pecans/; some hicans; Magnolia's; those are what I can think of off the top of me hat.

Dax
wisconsitom
10 years ago
.......kid in back of the classroom raises hand, shyly and quietly murmurs to teacher, a certain Mr. Dax...."Picea obovata?".......puts hand back down and looks around to see if anyone is laughing at him.
gardener365
10 years ago
They're all alive. I think I grafted 8 or 10 Picea obovata. One is 'Aurea' and the other two are names I cannot pronounce ;-)

Dax
plantkiller_il_5
10 years ago
Love this conversation,,,really

another kid puts his hand up,,,,,highjack ?

continue conversation

ron
andreas75_gw
Original Author
10 years ago
Ok, thanks, so i'll be patient and hoping :D!
wisconsitom
10 years ago
Jolly good Dax. If this was say, twenty years ago, I'd be telling you "you're the man"!
gardener365
10 years ago
Sometimes we all are!

Over and out.

Dax