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Tape Issues - Recent Paint Job

10 years ago

I had some drywalls issues with the tape along a few of the ceiling walls in one of the bedrooms, which is in the attic. I hired a couple of painters too correct it, the painters did a great job, used tape, etc. It looked great for a year or so but started noticing the same issues. I'd like to try to fix it again, but I would like a more permanent solution. The angles are probably 120-150 degrees with one of the drywall panes attached to a rafter (think attic). I know there will always be movement which will cause the tape to pop, so I am looking for alternative solutions. I am thinking about doing the following:

1) Repatch without the tape.

2) Take a razor and cut a think seam along the joint.

3) Fill seam with caulk

4) Spray some Goodbye Cracks over it (it supposed to be good for these applications)

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Goof-Off-4-oz-Goodbye-Cracks-Elastic-Crack-Cover-Spray-FG695/202022016

5) Repaint

Thoughts on this approach? Not sure if there are any other approaches out there that might work better. See pictures below for examples!




Comments (19)

  • 10 years ago

    Call in a drywall repair specialist.

  • 10 years ago

    Sometimes I do just cut out the failing areas of tape and then just fill with mud. The idea behind doing this is so that when there is movement again, you get just some hairline cracks instead of tape falling out.

  • 10 years ago
    To the person that said call in a drywall specialist, I did. And they used tape. And now I have to fix it a year later. I clearly asked for thoughts on Alternative solutions. Why waste your time responding if you provide nothing of value?

    To the other responder, that's part of my plan.
  • 10 years ago

    "I hired a couple of painters too correct it"

    Sounds to me like you hired painters and not drywall specialists.


  • 10 years ago

    Apologies - I should have been more clear, I used a drywall specialist who also painted the room afterwards. Do you have any thoughts on the question?

  • 10 years ago

    Try a better dry wall guy. Maybe a plaster guy instead. In my area plaster guys are different than dry wallers. Also I would have used mesh tape instead of paper tape.

  • 10 years ago

    Did they use mesh tape and apply at least two layers of joint compound over it?


    I am not an expert AT ALL, but any crack that I have applied mesh tape to in my house has not separated again. (Some walls have buckled a little, but that's a different issue.) Mesh tape is made of some sort of plastic - not paper.


    Another option may be to apply some type of moulding over it. I went ahead and installed crown moulding after I scraped the popcorn ceiling because I didn't want to deal with the tape near the walls. If you don't have right angles you might be able to bevel moulding or 1x4s with a table saw, or combine a couple of different pieces.

    homeluv2018 thanked Jane
  • 10 years ago

    Yes, they applied two layers. I thought about molding, but would be difficult because of the greater angle. I tried searching alternative solutions but didn't really find anything.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    mesh tape would be absolutely the wrong tape to use, and any good drywall person

  • 10 years ago

    Maybe...but I have mesh on my wall with the same angle and absolutely no issues. How is it absolutely wrong to use?

  • 10 years ago

    Most painters are good at doing drywall repairs. Simply saying hire a drywall guy or a better drywall guy is not really the solution. If there is movement behind the wall where two sheets of drywall meet, how is hiring a better drywall guy going to fix that? A better drywall guy cannot stop the earth from rotating and he cannot improve the design of the home either. Some houses have areas that continue to move and therefore will continue to crack and separate no matter if you use tape or mesh and no matter who you hire to fix it.

    homeluv2018 thanked paintguy22
  • 10 years ago

    Here's a tip. Sometimes the drywall guy leaves the ceiling sheet loose at the edge. Lunch break or text messages, etc. I was in a 1988 house yesterday that had very few screws near the edge. I could push the edge up when rolling near the edge of the ceiling. That may or may not be your case, but it's worth an inspection.

    I apologize for misreading " I hired a couple of painters too correct it, the painters did a great job, used tape, etc." instead of "I hired a drywall specialist to correct it".

  • 10 years ago

    I'll take a look at the drywall and see if there is any give, but I don't remember it moving much when I inspected it a few weeks ago although I didn't apply that much pressure.

    I think I am going to try my method and see how it works.


  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Speaking of that, I have noticed in all of my paining adventures that the way the house is framed, there isn't always a stud directly behind corners like that. There will be one at the top of the wall of course, but on the ceiling part it's just dead space. You will have a stud every 16 inches but in between two studs is where you may have that movement. Most times when we see reoccurring drywall issues, it's on vaulted areas or areas that are not 90° angles .

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    There might be many reasons but there is 90% chance it will
    be one of the 3 below.

    1. Do you have rafter vents in the attic? Those are
      polystyrene foam panels
      installed between rafters. They allow air movement from soffit to your attic. If
      they are not there, you are getting moisture and tape will fall off each time.
      Drywall guys will not help here. Just look in the attic and see if you have
      them between rafters, it’s going to be either pink or yellow, can’t miss them.
    2. Same thing as Brushworks mentioned, drywall panel
      not screwed correctly. Just push on it and if moves, you know the answer.
    3. When drywall was installed, it was installed too
      tight on the seam, now when walls and the roof work with temp and humidity
      changes, panels push each other and crack. That would be easy fix, just pull
      old tape, cut pieces of drywall out and re-tape.
    homeluv2018 thanked Piela Enterprise LLC
  • 10 years ago

    Wow - awesome response, thank you!
    I looked into the rafter vents previously. I do not have rafter vents and because of the way my attic is finished which is butting against the rafters (I still have unfinished attic space and can get up there to check), I was told that installing them would be a significant project.

    I don't think they are too tight because I believe the separation during winter months is what's causing the tape to "pop".





  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Without seeing in person hard to
    tell but I am almost positive we found the answer. If it happens in winter, it’s
    not due to a movement but moisture. When tape falls off like in your case, it’s
    because of the moisture most of the time. Moisture collects in the winter as
    your home is heated up and it’s cold outside.

    In regards to the project size,
    that is not a huge deal. They cost about $1.80 per two at HD or Lowe’s. All you
    have to do is move insulation away, slide it in and put insulation back. Make
    sure they go all the way down. Not hard just “crappy” job.

  • 10 years ago

    Cut it out. Find out if there is anything supporting the drywall. It could just be floating. Use some scrap pine to make a good backing for your new drywall.