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Replace a Cinderella Bathtub

10 years ago
I've searched endlessly on the internet to find a way to replace my 4 feet X 4 feet Retro Cinderella bathtub but no tubs are the same size except a few drop ins. My GC says I need skirted and can't use drop in. I thought of a custom made all concrete tub but I read that they are cold and make hot water luke warm. I don't want to out heat coils. Can anyone make a recommendation?

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  • 10 years ago
    Layout.
  • 10 years ago

    Reason I'm asking is because we did the same thing with a drop in tub. I'll haave to ask how they sealed where the tile and the tub met. There was no lip on our tub either.

  • 10 years ago
    Ranmarie, please let me know. The sales person at a tub store told me I could tile the wall to where the tub and wall meet. She said her father has been a general contractor for 30 years. But I read a lot of online forums and also my General Contractor all say it will leak without a tub surround (no space for that) or that upward curve (skirt?) on the edge of the tub. I know it definitely can be done but my concern is water leaking down the wall and damage. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks!
  • 10 years ago
    Ranmarie, was your tub wall almost flush with the wall? Or was there the tub, some additional flat horizontal space like a ledge which you could tile (I think called a surround), and then the wall?

    The first photo is how I was told you need the surface area around the tub to tile. I don't have space for this. I was told this won't have leak problems.

    The second tub is not my tub but it is the exact same set up. I was told the only reason this won't leak is because the tub has a small edge that goes an inch behind that tile and prevents water from leaking down. The only 48x48 tubs sold today do not have that little edge going up. So tiling the wall direct to the tub could leak.
  • 10 years ago

    Could you just glaze your current tub and reuse it. It's pretty spectacular.

  • 10 years ago

    Why not do a shower only? 4x4 is a good size for a shower.

  • 10 years ago

    Yeah, if there's a tub somewhere else in the house, i think I'd just ditch it here. Either that, or make your peace with the cinderella -- it does allow for a full-length tub, which is impossible otherwise. You're honestly not going to want to take a bath in a 48" tub if you manage to track one down.

    There are circular soaking tubs that would fit in the space -- acrylic versions of this:


    Japanese Soaking Bathtub, Copper · More Info
    -- but you'd hate to have to climb into that every time you take a shower, because the extra volume comes in height (mine is about waist high). At least there's room for a deck though.

    Maybe we'll have ideas for a different way to rearrange things once you post your floorplan. But the only time I've seen one of those cindarellas in use, it was about the only solution for the tiny space. (I put in a standing shower and then added another bathroom with a tub on a different floor.)

  • 10 years ago
    Lila, I've heard about chipping and pealing with glazing. Also my mom has been in Real Estate 30 years and she thinks the shape is outdated and will look odd in an updated bathroom. Live_wire_oak, tub for resale value. Acm, here's the floor plan again. Can't move the "pony wall" because there's tons of wires inside.
  • 10 years ago

    You don't need a unusable tub for "resale". Better to have a nice shower than something that peels and chips or is too tall to shower in. Without a great deal of expense to expand the bath, you are down to either leave it alone, or do a shower.

  • 10 years ago
    I agree. I think I'm out of options. I thought I could find a custom tub but no luck so far.
  • 10 years ago
    ranmarie, did you find out how they sealed the drop in?
  • 10 years ago
    I found out the piece on the tub that I was calling "skirt" or "lip" is really called tile flange.
  • 10 years ago

    Sorry, I somehow missed your earlier questions. I know the tub was flush with the wall and that it was a drop in. My husband built a wall that we tiled up the front with mosiacs. I'm just trying to find a photo. I will ask exactly how it was done and get back to you. We found if someone says "it can't be done" it's quite often because they haven't thought of the idea yet!

  • 10 years ago
    ranmarie, I agree. I talked to my contractor again. He did say having the tile wall meet the tub wall flush can be done but no way to seal and prevent leaks. I found out it is the tile flange that prevents leaks and drop in tubs don't have tile flange.
  • 10 years ago

    After a casual search I found many "4' alcove tub". Yes, four feet long with three sides having tile flange. Personally, I would skip the tub and just have a really nice 4x4 shower.

  • 10 years ago
    chiflipper, I'm looking for square not rectangle. I want the 4 ft width, not the standard 3 ft width.
  • 10 years ago

    I love these tubs and did not know they were called Cinderella. I bet someone from one of the "save the pink bathtub" pages would love to buy this.

  • 10 years ago
    Terri, there's definitely people who love them. From what I read they are very heavy. So best bet at selling would be someone local that really wants it. I searched eBay and saw one green set with tub, sink, toilet posted that didn't sell.
  • 10 years ago

    It took four men to carry out my normal sized bathtub, so I cannot imagine how heavy this one must be. Just yesterday I saw a post from someone who wants to redo her entire bathroom to make it pink. If I find that, I'll come back and share the link with you. You probably aren't near each other, but it's worth a shot. In the meantime, check this out. http://www.houzz.com/photos/query/save-the-pink-bathroom/nqrwns

  • 10 years ago
    Terri, thanks. I actually have two pink bathrooms! My master bath has, pink toilet, pink bidet, pink tile, pink sinks AND swan head fixtures. I'm going to try to work with the pink there. But this tub is in the hall bath used by my boys so pink just won't work.
  • 10 years ago

    This bathroom is crying out for a shower only.

  • 10 years ago

    The pink bathroom lovers would go crazy over all of that. I wish I had a pink bathroom, but my husband is glad we don't. Our house was built before that was popular. My son has a 1955 house with an 80s add-on master bedroom with bathroom, but he has green and white in the original bathroom. The bathroom added on has harvest gold tub, sink, and toilet. That is probably my least favorite color but he loves it. LOL

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    There is a company, MTI Baths, that will custom make a tub in acrylic. Also, you can add on a tile flange. Its not the most ideal way, but its been done. And finally, you could do a freestanding tub - but you would need to use a circular shower curtain rod - likely suspended from the ceiling. Check out www.barclayproducts.com to see the options

  • 10 years ago
    Infusion Kitchen & Bath, Thank you for the options! I didn't think I could do free standing because of the water splashing out and also I wanted glass doors not shower curtain. But at this point I may need to reconsider shower curtain.
  • 10 years ago
    Infusion K & B, I just called MTI. They don't make custom size (just custom add one) and they don't have 4 ft x 4 ft but they do have a 3.5 ft x 3.5 ft so that would give me space to build a platform and do drop in or undermount . It's a tiny tub but it will fit my tiny space. :)
  • 10 years ago

    Lee A. I asked. It is just very well caulked where the tile meets the tub. You will be able to tell when the caulking isn't holding anymore.

  • 10 years ago
    Thanks ranmarie.
  • 10 years ago

    A 3.5 x 3.5 tub is not going to add to the resale value. In fact, I'd guess it would hurt it. A 4 x 4 shower would be better that a 3.5 x 3.5 tub.

    You can't put a freestanding tub in that amount of space. Infusion Kitchen & Bath didn't take into account the 48" dimensions. While there may be a very short freestanding tub, once you allow for the slant of the sidewalls and ends, there will be very, very little room to stand (those tubs already have narrow bottoms). You'd probably have less than 18 x 24 to stand in. Nasty. And it would probably hurt resale.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Though tatts is correct - it would be small, a freestanding tub can be done. If you search "Pelion freestanding 47" tub" this is something like I was thinking about. The bottom is 31 x 17.5" so its actually not terrible. Its a more modern design so you dont have to deal with the slants and its more like a soaking tub.

    For an add on tile flange kit, it would be something like this http://www.homedepot.com/p/MAAX-Tiling-Flange-Kit-10012491/203996121 

    As I said before its not really the right way, but it could work.

    On the MTI custom tubs - I know they have made some extra large ones for sports stars. My mistake for thinking they would make an extra small one custom as well? I actually have a meeting with their rep today. I am curious now 8-)

    I also agree with Tatts in that I am not certain a tub would help with resale value. The trend today is to put a big shower in and forego the tub - unless you're in a home that can afford the room of a big soaking tub and spa type bathroom. If this is the only tub in the home I think it needs to be kept because it could be a deterrent from making a sale to someone who might have small children. If it's not the only tub - it wont hurt to not have it.



  • 10 years ago

    We just removed a blue one identical to your tub last week. I am in the same boat you are. I LOVED that tub and the space I had. I have been unable to find anything 4ft x 4ft. I thought about a shower but, with resale everyone wants tubs. I think a shower would look nice but with two small children it is not ideal. Feeling your pain!

  • 10 years ago
    zechar25, I found this corner tub that should fit. www.tubs.com/mti-deborah-2-MTI-90.htm
  • 10 years ago

    Wow, some peoples trash is anothers treasure, here I was looking for a Cinderella Tub, and came across this article, well actually I want a whole matching suite, sink toilet etc. pink, green, blue, anything but white. I just love them and I think they will be back in full fashion soon, maybe Kohler will reissue..in my dreams. Reglazing is gross, my mom just had a newer iron kohler tub done and it peeled within a month. The texture of glaze and acrylic is substandard in my eyes compared to cast iron, I replaced a tub with an Americast , the feel is ok, but the sound is horrible.

  • 9 years ago

    Lee, what did you end up doing? I have the same situation. We remodeled 4 years ago and was sold on resurfacing. Of course, we now have chipping. Our color is navy blue. That link you listed above didn't work.

  • 9 years ago

    Funny, I am going through the same issue with 2 baths in my house, the same exact style as Lee A. No issue solution, the tubs are still in good condition but we decided to replace one a 4'X4' tile shower and the other will be a

    Sterling Plumbing 72250106-0 Accord Shower Kit, 42-Inch x 36-Inch x 77-Inch to save money, hopefully.

  • 9 years ago

    Hi. Given the age of this post you are likely no longer interested. If you are, I do have one in pristine condition for sale available near Philadelphia, PA. Please contact me on 267 441 3097 if you wish to discuss. Thank you. Peter



  • 9 years ago

    That would be ideal. Except that I need one with a drain on the right side.

  • 8 years ago
    I have one with the drain on the right. It’s perfectly dusty and just a few weeks from being subject to a sledgehammer unless I can easily get rid of it... along with the pink translucent acrylic countertop, Hal-Mack accessories, etc. my bathroom is stuck in 1955
  • 8 years ago

    Wow, I like the shower door! Mine was navy blue, but spraying it white didn't work. We finally decided to give in and go with Bath Fitters. It's going to be done in a few weeks.

  • 7 years ago

    For anyone still looking I am hoping to sell an original baby blue 48"x 48" Cinderella tub drain on the left. Very good condition installed in 1954. Philadelphia area. Feel free to email melissa@jenkintown.net. if interested.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    11 years later, I am still sick over the fact that my husband tore out my 1948 cinderella tub and redid the floor plan in our master bath. He put in the largest Tea for Two and I HATE it - takes forever to fill and wastes water and not comfortable unless you are a giant. And for the person who stated that "you wouldn't want to take a bath in a 48" tub" you clearly don't get the genius of the space saving design. The tub is on an angle so the bathing length is actually 4-1/2 feet long and I can say was the most comfortable tub I have ever used and I had my cinderella tub for 28 years. I am planning to find another tub like it and, when I do, I am going to tear out what my husband did and put it all back like it was. I live in Los Angeles so hoping to find one locally - I need the drain to be on the right and prefer white in case anyone might know of one.

  • 3 years ago

    We too have this cinderella tub. i just had ours reglazed and so far so good!! its guaranteed for 10 years. ItsIt’s still in the works so excuse the mud on the the walls!!


  • 3 years ago

    Looks good. I hope it lasts. We tried a spray on process which was guaranteed for 5 years. After about 1.5 years, there was massive chipping and when we tried to get it done again, the contractor b*tched and moaned that we were the cause. Cripes, it's a shower, how were we supposed to use it? So after he did it again, it still only lasted another year or so. At that point we decided to go with Bath Fitter. It's not original, but it fits fine and works for us.

  • 3 years ago

    Is it the cinderella tub as well?? i coukd not find anyone to cover this in my area which is why we did the glaze.

  • 3 years ago

    Cinderella, garden, I've heard it called both. The only place we were able to find to cover it was Bath Fitter (see my previous comments from a few years ago). We've been happy with it.


  • 3 years ago

    So bath fitter has this??? omg they told me they had nothing that would work!! i will keep this in mind if the glaze does not work out!! thank you so much!!

  • 3 years ago

    This is the same thing i would need, same fittings and all!!

  • 3 years ago

    Paul Newhart can you tell me what bath fitters ran?? my reglaze is peeling after 2 months!!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    This is in a home we just purchased. Should we keep it or sell it? Trying to post a pic but it’s not posting.


  • 3 years ago

    Wow, that's really funky. I've never seen an octagon one!