High nitrogen is not the answer for more root growth...It will only burn the roots of your new roses...I do not fertilize new smaller roses there first season... Please be patient as its only been 2 weeks...

Maybe someone familiar with J & P roses will chime in...

Jim, my understanding was that the N promotes foliage growth which inhibits the development of a strong root system. Thanks for the clarification.

Nitrogen will stimulate top growth BUT

To much nitrogen etc. is not good for young roses as there root systems are not developed yet and it can actually burn young tiny roots...

Hopefully your rose starts growing well and you can fertilize next year or later this year...

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• Nitrogen helps leaves & shoots (above ground)
• Phosphorus helps roots (below ground)
• Potassium is used by the whole plant (like a vitamin).

My thought (perhaps not correct) is that to much nitrogen at this time will cause green growth that the roots will not be able to support. However after a month or two I do use a weak solution of liquid seaweed for the first year. But not before the rose is growing well.

You are right Patty .... I was just concerned that to much nitrogen used at this point in time on a new rose could damage the young roots...

I just choose not to fertilize first year roses but a weak solution of fertilizer used a month or two later after planted can work well too... As long as the rose is growing healthy and not looking stressed...

You sort of said the same thing Jim just in a different way. I think what we are all hinting at is the poor butchered plant just needs time and water.

One thing I'm thinking of trying is a little root stimulator. Since I've never tried it thou I have no idea if it actually benefits the rose or not.

I have no idea either but you could experiment and see...

I promise I am not trying to be the devels advocate here. Every demo I have ever seen for planting a new rose bush calls for using several different natural fertilizers, kelp, cotton seed meal,alfalfa, fish meal,ect. So where do they figure in here? I have never been speaking about chemical ferts in this post.

LOL

jmorris, everyone does things different and different ways can be very successful... But if done wrong it could cause set-back or death of the plant... Some ways are just safer in my opinion.... But in the end its up to you to choose what methods you prefer by experimenting...

Best of luck!

That is true Jmorris I think I was imagining something like miracle grow or urea being used. Christopher on here has an excellent mix he uses to pot up his young roses. Many rose nurseries also recommend mixing organics into the soil. All of the things you mention are excellent. My apologizes for miss understanding. I am going to try seaweed this a little root stimulater mixed in water this year.

I see you are Z8, so I'm guessing your soil has warmed up.

This is a kelp product I have used, seems to work really well. I use it on seedlings, cuttings, bare roots, etc. you may find it cheaper locally.

I hope they start growing for you!

Super Nova

I went back to my old school ways and no longer use store bought fertilizer so I probably should of stayed away from this thread...lol

Hope you get things figured out jmorris! If your soil is healthy the rose will grow... ;-)

I ordered Super Nova Julie thanks.

Hope it works well for you Patty. I saw it suggested at Hidden Valley Hibiscus, and the stuff I read about the kelp made sense, so I figured why not try it? My little stick Tequila Supreme had a bud this AM but I pinched it off :)

My sticky also Tequila Supreme will appreciate a little drink I'm sure. Thanks again!

Bone meal is excellent for roots. I always add when potting up or planting anything.

Susan