yep

We'd probably have to know the names of the cultivars you are considering to know if they are smaller then the species. I imagine some are dwarfs. .

Are you talking about grafted cultivars? I understand grafted trees are a little bit more finicky about getting established and often slower growing then natural seedlings.

I rather like some of the blueish and weeping forms. Also like some of the hybrids with Pinus ayacahuite.

another link for you ....

annual growth rates are predictable .... and most size estimates are based on such ...

so... if a plant grows one foot per year ... then in ten years.. it should be about 10 feet tall ... in 20 years... 20 feet ... they never really stop growing ...

so when one is claimed to be dwarf ... it has a slower growth rate ... and a mini.. even less ...

and of course.. it all starts with how big it was at purchase ... and how many years post graft etc ... so to set that all aside.. we say they growth rates are after the plant becomes ESTABLISHED ... to which i add.. it begins growing to specs ...

ken

http://conifersociety.org/conifers/conifer-sizes/

KEN , 1st reply,,,Great answer,,,,,,,,NOT

did you post about this previously ?

ron

Plants sold as 'Nana' tend to throw up leads, transform into trees over time.