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Very Dry Window Sashes

10 years ago

The previous owners of our 1870 home removed the finish and sanded many of the windows inside then never reapplied any finish. The wood has been bare for about 60 years and has dried and shrunken somewhat. It's worse in some areas than in others.


I plan to restore using Sarco M Glazing Putty (all of the glazing has pretty much fallen off the exterior of the sashes) and an oil based primer before painting. Should I do something additional to prep the interior side of the sashes where they are so dried out?


Also, for the exterior, should I simply sand the paint smooth and apply a new coat or try to remove the old?

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    What is your ultimate goal for the interior side of the windows?

    Paint, varnish, shellac?

    At any rate, if they were my windows, I'd seal that old dry wood up with penetrating epoxy sealer inside and out. And give them another 150 years + of life. I'd varnish the insides. For the outsides, I'd use a marine grade long oil alkyd primer, and then a couple topcoats of paint.

    There are easier options to seal the wood up to. You could mix up a 50/50 mixture of penetrol and mineral spirits to quench the wood with. Won't work as well as a penetrating epoxy, but will work better than primer alone. But if varnishing the insides, I wouldn't go that route and use only the epoxy sealer.

    The good news is the insides are already stripped. So they really just need to be sanded really well.

    Without knowing what the windows look like, it's probably best to remove all the old paint and putty, sand everything really well, seal up with epoxy sealer, varnish the insides. Let cure. Flip over, add bead of putty and seat the glass. Install glazing points. Finish puttying. Let putty cure. Prime. sand smooth, 2nd coat of primer. Sand smooth. Paint.

    For your first window, start with one in a non-conspicuous location.

    old_home_lover thanked sambah006
  • 10 years ago

    The previous owners painted a lot of the trim, so even though I love the old wood, I think we are going to paint both inside and out. There are just so many more pressing issues I can't put the time into stripping trim to match at this point. I plan to remove and reglaze the sashes and install spring bronze weather stripping in the hopes that next winter we can cut down on some of the draft. Right now, so much of the glazing has literally fallen out of the windows, some are being held in by just the glazing points. Any wind and they rattle like crazy.

    I'm looking at this as a possibility for the sealer you recommended: http://www.amazon.com/TotalBoat-Penetrating-Epoxy/dp/B00J36WRRG

    So once I remove the pane and get the paint stripped and the wood sanded, I would just apply this all over the wood and let it cure, then once it's cured I can move forward with the normal reglazing process then paint once the glaze has skinned over, correct?

  • 10 years ago

    @ Sombreuil - Yes, this is also a factor in deciding to paint, some areas where there was water infiltration are bleached or stained and the wood may not take a stain well or evenly ever again. This is one of the worst.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm not sure what TotalBoat stuff is.

    Seriously, being a no VOC product, I'm not sure how deep it will penetrate into the wood. Water based resins are bigger than solvent based. Unless something new has been developed...

    The only product I have experience with is Smiths CPES.

    Others seem to like Abatron.

    I wouldn't stain the windows.

    Another good resource is:

    http://historichomeworks.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=416005554e4025b6f2caa6e88007e09b



  • 10 years ago

    I've used the boiled linseed/turpentine mixture on all mine. Several looked like yours. Dry. Any bits of shellac long gone. It's like giving your wood the drink of fluid it's been needing for years.

    I highly recommend it!!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Could someone share the mixing ratio for the linseed/turpentine mixture, please? I also have very dry sashes and sills and would love to try this.

  • 10 years ago

    It is a 50-50 mix of boiled linseed oil and turpentine. It really makes a difference with old wood. I have a not-so-old picket fence with horizontal cross pieces that would not hold a paint job. The paint would be cracking in less than a year. I used the blo/turp on it and it has been holding the paint for 3 years so far. I use it on all my windows. For more on this stuff, google the word "blopentine."

  • 10 years ago

    Awesome, thank you so much for sharing!

  • last year

    And of you add 20% Flood Penetrol it speeds the drying a little. has anyone tried this, I have?

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