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New Succulent Addict

10 years ago

Howdy guys,


Normally a container vegetable and sometimes flower gardener, I've recently become addicted to succulents. At first, I tried not to be impulsive, but after doing some research, I brought a few home for myself and projects with the kids. I thought a did enough research, but I realize, I probably should have done some more.


I wanted to ask for some possible succulent IDs and care advice. They are currently all in terra-cotta pots. The tiniest ones are from random cuttings I didn't realize the kids picked up from the ground at the garden center. I had them all in indirect sunlight for about a week, before I decided to put them on a bright ledge outside where they get full sunlight. After a full week after repotting, they all had their first full water, and in my limited plant knowledge, they all seem to be rerooting and growing well.


For the medium I used miracle grow cactus and succulent mix, which I'm gathering isn't good enough for drainage? Here are some pics of the newest kids in the house:


Cutting that was repotted and brought home. I noticed some roots coming in from the bottom, so I'm leaving it alone.


A little blurry, but I picked up this little guy because it looked so outstretched at home depot.


The kids wanted to make their own mermaid pots with gems and crystals, so this is one of their designs. The purple succulent seems to be losing it's lower leaves (one came off this morning) but the newest growths seem to be coming in tight and plump. The green one in the back also seems to be growing new leafs and seems to be rerooting ok.
I think this is a paddle plant?


The other two succulents with the paddle plant.


I picked this one up because I've never seen such a pink succulent. After I transferred them to full sun, it became even more pink, and it seems to be shooting out a stem with flowers. So fingers crossed for that.


Any chance I can get an ID on any of these guys? I know some of the pics aren't that great, I had to zoom in from the original photos. Also any care advice? I'm currently in NJ (zone 7) and the nights have been a little chilly, so I bring all the pots in as the sun goes down, and put them back out every morning. I've read to water infrequently, so plan on using a chopstick to check for moisture before watering. Other than that, any tips?


Thank you guys for all your help. I've been reading a tons of your posts!


- New Succulent owner

Comments (14)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Top one Crassula ovata

    # 2 no idea

    # 3 Echeveria ?

    # 4 ???

    # 5 Kalanchoe thyrsiflora AKA Flapjack can sometimes be called a paddle plant

    # 6 ???

    # 7 ???

    Night temps here dip down to the higher 40's for the past few days Honestly I don't drag any common plants as yours that I have here in after sunset I would think in your zone any (and maybe all) of them would be able to your night time temps. yet I also note some caution is also a good idea as they are small in size.

    Back tracking to your choice of soil you mentioned bagged MG C&S soil unfortunately I've not had the honor of ever using it but do recall reading that some suggest it is either hydrophobic or hydrophobic meaning it may hold to much moisture ( Hydroponic) or it may become to dry to take up moisture (Hydrophobic). Most folks on this forum lean toward a gritty mix Personally I preference sharp rocky soils ( Which are actually soil less soils) for very fast drainage


    When or if it does become hydrophobic it will take a-lot of water to get it to the point where succulents will enjoy it The amount of water needed to go from hydrophobic to hydrophobic is to much as succulents are easier to maintain if kept on the dryer side

    Dryer side: After watering both air and warmth will help dry them but same warmth also dries the inner soil and may have a steaming effect on the roots if to much water is used or it could become to hard if not enough same mentioned warmth may also dry the MG C&S soil to quickly.

    Considering the fact that cooler moisture last longer than warmer moisture The magic of a skewer is just that ( IMO) magic. Magic to me is right up there there with myth.

    Chibs NJ thanked nomen_nudum
  • 10 years ago

    Last is definitely an Anacampseros. This one shows its pink tones in strong sunlight which it must have been getting to look like that.

    Chibs NJ thanked lmontestella
  • 10 years ago

    I would suggest to keep sempervivums (hens&chicks) outdoors; they are all hardy, most to z4 and some even z3. They are monocarpic plants - if the plants blooms, it will die after. But it will have 'chicks' in the meantime, so you will have replacement. It is more difficult to grow them indoors. They could be potted in contaoners or ground. Good drainage is essential for all succulents, if you can't get more gritty mix (with ingredients like grit, perlite, turface, pumice, scoria and similar inorganic ingredients), pls. get a bag of perlite and mix it with your existing soil min. 50/50.

    Btw, Kalanchoe is probably luciae, not thyrsiflora K.t. is not so common in stores. Flowers will tell for sure. And it is also monocarpic. It may take a while for semps and kalanchoe to bloom, so do not worry about being 'plantless', lol.

    nomen_nudum already explained why not to use peaty mix.

    All succulents will benefit from some sunshine, but make sure they get acclimatized to it. They can be left outdoors once temps stay around 50*F overnight.

    Chibs NJ thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you everyone for your ID's and advice. Do you think the succulents will be ok in this cactus mix until I repot them next? Or should I repot them again while they are just rerooting with a grittier mix?


    Also, I noticed that my paddle plant, although I hardened it to be outside for just over a week, went limp the first day that I put it in direct sunlight. (When I brought it home, I put it first in a shady window, then an indirect window, then in a bright window (still indoors) and finally, outside in direct sunlight) After I noticed that all the leaves were limp, I brought it in for the night, and this morning it perked back up to normal and all the leaves are tight and plump. Should I leave this pot inside? Or did it need more time to harden to the direct sunlight?

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Hardening off to sunlight should be done outside, the light intensity is different than thru the window.

    If my plants, I would preferably pot them into best mix I could get, especially with the 'prime time' for growing just starting - warm and sunny weather outdoors. That way6 they will have best conditions for best growth from the start, without too much further disturbance (and work for me :). But they would be OK in the mix if you are careful about watering - meaning not overwatering. If nothing else, get more perlite, (I would sift it to get rid of smallest particulates and/or dust), and mix it with existing soil.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Do you think the succulents will be ok in this cactus mix until I re-pot them next?

    A loaded question

    Or should I re-pot them again while they are just re-rooting with a grittier mix?

    You may re-pot them if you are having problems keep in mind that all plants re-potted will also take a bit of time to adapt to the grittier mix. What I suggest for you is to re-pot them in a slightly moist grittier mix and leave them to set in a cooler but still a very bright area for a few days then re sun harden them.

    Slightly moist because the new soil is already dry and they may already be moist enough

    What is a cooler but still a very bright area: based on your pics and assuming there are all inside as sill sitters. If up I would drop the bug screen down and open windows so that the bottom of the window also provides some shade for them just prior to the AM morning sun has past lift them to the top. A small step that should take apx two weeks. Keep in mind that you may close them after the sun has past but would be better if left partially open though out the night but close them if it is to rain at any time.

    Also you can consider to move them away from the window sill that has the strongest sun and move them closer after the sun has past as you provide ample air either way.


    If you aiming to get them outside: After a few days of sitting near or on the sill lift the screens and windows up Make use of the day to day changes of your climate keeping in mind a cloudier day is a less UV ( cooler) day & suggest to move plants closer for longer times of brighter as well.

    Why I think it's a loaded question : As it is growing season (as we speak) it may be better to wait a while and not re-pot them you don't want to fight the roots they may break rip or scare easily and often do provide some resistance in a damper soil if there are already in a damper soil. It also takes time for your plants to adapt to there newer soil as well

    Re transitioning AKA sun hardening if already sun hardened and depending on the day to day UV rays your re-hardening may take as long as two weeks to a month after re-potting

    Don't push them to fast back to fast to a fuller warmer sun they are easier to control and grow better if kept cooler. Here is a sample of a leaf that was in the process of hardening but was exposed to long to higher UV rays before it was ready for the ( alleged) longer times in higher UV exposure. ( note last year this one leaf made a full sun open air exposure for 17.65 hours on June 21/ 15 but burnt in less than three hours of the max full sun of Jan 21/15 two days ago.

    hard to see the blacked part that's burnt on it but if you see discoloring of this type and folding wrinkles/creasing on your plants pull any plant away from the warmer sun.

    Chibs NJ thanked nomen_nudum
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback nomen_nudum. I noticed some roots growing at the base of the stems and into the soil, so I think I'm going to keep them in this medium until I repot them. I started a watering chart, so I can monitor their responses. I'm outside to check on my other garden often, so I check on these guys 2/3 times a day just to see if anyone is going limp, or to bring them in from hardening, etc. The Anacampseros also just started to bloom. One of the buds is just slightly cracked open this morning, so I'm a little scared to repot while in bloom. haha.


    I think I'm already planning on repotting the aeonium so it can be alone, and give the casulla it's own pot. I also want to separate the two semps and put them in a pot by themselves so they can spread without any concern of neighboring plants. So I figured since I plan on repotting in a month or two for size and comfort, I might as well let them develop strong roots now, and then use the grittier mix in a few months.

  • 10 years ago

    I don't have much advice being a new succulent addict myself but I wanted to say how cool that mermaid pot is. I like the idea of putting gems and crystal in the pot. Your kids are very creative!

    That last pink succulent is so pretty! I don't think anyone has identified it yet. Maybe I'll look around the Internet and see if I can find something that looks similar...

  • 10 years ago

    Best of growing to you, in a nut shell if it wasn't so darn difficult to remove moister peat with out damaging the roots I'd be favoring sooner then later for re-potting.

    Welcome to your new addiction & for your viewing pleasure

    a small sample of that stuff called gritty mix




  • 10 years ago

    Melissa,

    I did ID that one, posted several posts up, but here it is again.

    "Last is definitely an Anacampseros. This one shows its pink tones in strong sunlight which it must have been getting to look like that."

    Lena

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Just in case you wanted to be very specific, it's Anacampseros telephiastrum variegata. =)

    Flowers are a nice colour and close up at night.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Lena. I don't know how I missed that!

    Ewwmayo - Thank you for the specific name. I'll have to look for it next time I go to the garden center ;-)

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    10 years ago

    If you need a pumice source we got you covered ;D It has many advantages compared to its competitors (such as perlite and peat)

    We sell it in 15lb. bags online and offer free shipping on any orders in the U.S. and can give estimates for shipping internationally!

    Go to www.GeneralPumiceProducts.com for more info or to place an order!

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