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Elderberries?

10 years ago

For a location, I'm in Illinois northwest of Chicago. I moved into a home 2 years ago and most of the flowering and fruiting plants had purpose. Next to my lilacs there was a small bush growing that has began to take over. I thought it was weird when I first moved in that the previous owners would leave this to grow. I told my wife last year I was chopping it down since it is beginning to over lap with lilacs. It had small flowers and my wife put the kebosh on me hacking it down. This year rolls around and the bush is now wrecking the nearest lilac in terms of size/growth. The plant is in a corner where it's not too much of an eyesore for the usual passer-byer, but to me it looks ugly. I then took a trip to Alaska where I went out with a guide to learn about fauna and flora, and the guide points out a plant that looks like my "weed" in the corner. The guide identified the Alaskan plant as an elderberry plant. I don't recall berries on my "weed" in the past, but it's possible birds have ravaged it since my cherry tree never comes to fruition for humans before the birds get the fruit. I posted a picture of the buds. It's about to bloom and I can post another after the next rainfall, which is likely to cause the bloom, if anyone needs more help.

Comments (20)

  • 10 years ago

    Yeah sure..elderberry, good stuff! Now you might want swing the ax at the lilac! lol.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Could be red elderberry, the fruit takes some extra work to be edible.

  • 10 years ago

    Yeah, it is probably not worth keeping if it is red elder. Hard to tell from the pic due to distortion, but the red elder inflorescence is not the nice flat topped compound umbel like the (more) edible types. Compare it to descriptions and pics of Sambucus canadensis or S. nigra with your plant.

  • 10 years ago

    It looks like a black one.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Yes, I just drove past a planting and the above picture looks like a blue or black-fruited variety.

  • 10 years ago

    I guess my next question is, do the berries start off a certain color and change when ripe? Will they start blue/black then turn red as they mature?

  • 10 years ago

    The berries start green then turn red then darken to a dark black. After that, with a little help from you, it becomes elderberry wine or tincture. I strongly recommend making some sparkling wine out of the flowers. Mine shown below made 5 gallons of champagne and 13 gallons of a wine that you would not believe ca e out of the back yard!

  • 10 years ago

    Or Elderberry jelly....

  • 10 years ago
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    How do you keep the blankedety blank wild birds away.? lots of mine picked off when green.

    prob even from those good for nuttin moths,caterpillars too.

    do you actually use the white flowers? Huh???? explain more PLEASE

    thank you

  • 10 years ago

    Mine are currently red and becoming more sparse by the day. They are also not as dense as Konrad's

  • 10 years ago

    James, can you post a picture? Maybe they are red elderberries.

  • 10 years ago

    Sorry I was gone all day yesterday. Here's an updated picture of the plant after fruiting. I'm in growing zone 5a

  • 10 years ago
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    I see green not red, sometimes I cover mine with row cover when birds become a pest or other insects.


  • 10 years ago

    Birds have been relentless this year because here in the northeast we are just below drought water levels. The critters are using the fruit. My Asian pear was stripped and I'm in a war for my pears on a 50 year old tree that produces hundreds of pounds of fruit. I don't know if I will get any this year. So far however, the elders are loaded. I'm worried because I'm going on vacation next week for two weeks. I'll take pics of the devastation when I get back.

  • 10 years ago

    The fruit has finally matured. Here is what I have. I tried one and it didn't taste sweet, but I'm not sure if that's a flavor I should be expecting. But, not red elderberries, so these should be edible, correct? I don't need to boil them or do anything special before eating?

  • 10 years ago

    Nope, most you don't want to eat fresh.

    https://novascotia.ca/museum/poison/?section=species&id=117

    "Both contain a cyanide-producing glycoside in their leaves, twigs, and seeds" and "A toxic alkaloid is also present in the flowers and unripened fruit".

    I have heard that cooking breaks down these compounds in the berries (don't cook twigs or leaves).

    I tend to link making syrups. I had a couple heads ripen earlier than the rest and the birds were attacking so I just made a small batch.

    380g berries (about 2 cups)

    Added 300 ml H20

    Boiled then simmered 30 min and then crushed berries with a potato masher

    Strained through 2 layers of cheesecloth on top of a strainer which gave about 400 ml juice

    Added 250g sugar (about 0.75%)

    Dissolved by boiling about 10 min

    Made 300 ml

    Very tasty - almost blackberry like. Perfect sweetness - still has a bit of tang. Great on ice cream. I also like mixing 15-45ml with 250-300 ml sparkling water (sodastream) on ice to make a really nice fruity drink.

  • 10 years ago

    nassauguy26, would you mind posting your sparkling and regular wine recipies? What volume flowers/fruit? What SG for added sugar? What yeast? How long do you usually need to let it age? I'd like to experiment next year.

  • 10 years ago

    I made jelly from elderberries. It makes the most beautiful colored jelly, so purple as to be almost black. Good flavor, too.

  • 10 years ago
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    I make jelly (not jam - too many seeds). In the past I've made wine but don't bother these days. The Harvest Forum here on GW will be able to help you with US approved recipes for Elderberry products.