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Help with succulent propagation

10 years ago
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Hi everyone
I have 2 succulents I am attempting to propagate for the first time. I have separated a number of pups from the mother plants, some have roots but most do not have any. I have bought some root hormone powder from Amazon so will dip the pups in this and plant them in cactus soil.. Is this the best way for them to root? Do I only need to do this with the pups without the roots?

Also, I have 3 pups I planted a few months ago, they didn't have any roots and still do not. Should I dip them in root hormones?

Thanks in advance


Mother plants:


Pups (some with roots and some without): Letting them callus for a few days

Pups I planted about 2 months ago which look healthy but don't have any roots: thinking of dipping them in rooting hormones

Comments (15)

  • 10 years ago

    Or even 50/50 cactus & succulent mix + perlite. But we agree on care issues. No disrespect, but you're paying attention to the the wrong things.

    These pups seem rather small & young to have been divided, they're too small (IMO). No harm leaving them on longer, but what's done is done.

    Best to improve the overall culture of the WHOLE PLANT by correcting the poor mix.

    I've never used rooting hormone on Haworthias either, simply not needed.

    PS: pls. stop checking for roots, it damages the tiny little root hairs you're trying to establish.

    The truest indicator of when something has rooted is the appearance of new growth!

    Those pups will also need tiny clay pots or they'll be in too much soil & likely to rot when watered.

    Lena

    Sharif Said thanked lmontestella
  • 10 years ago

    Hi both, thank you for your feedback much appreciated honestly.

    Funny you both mentioned the soil as I was just looking into changing it, I purchased the 'Westland cacti compost' which I thought would be fine but seems like it contains too much peat. I will change this ASAP! It's weird as my succulents seem to be doing fine in it (see picture of new growth for another one of my plants below). Sorry I'm new to all of this, what compost is best to use? 50% of the stuff I already have + 50% perlite?

    The 3 pups I mentioned I planted a while ago have actually started to root (just checked) but still very early stages, literally look like stubs. I shall stop taking them out to avoid further stress.

    So with the new cuttings, I will get the proper soil and put them all in my tiny clay pots which luckily I have and water the ones only with roots after a few days. When do I water the ones without roots? As they will not be able to absorb water will I need to mist them?

    Needless to say I will repot all of my succulents as I have many.


    Here's a pic of the compost i used in the background and the other succulents I have showing signs of growth in the soil. Also the small clay pots I have.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm guessing I can buy some of this stuff and mix it with the soil I already have:


    http://www.wilko.com/compost/wilko-compost-perlite-10l-12kg/invt/0300454#fullDesc 

  • 10 years ago

    Ah, so you are a fellow UK'er, please add your details after your name via your home page as it will help us help you.

    Yes, that perlite is useable, but, you will find that maybe 50% isn't any good whatsoever, it's just dust and fine particles that need to be seived out. I bought the same brand and was disappointed to find this so, even the big stuff is on the small side! Use the largest bits that get left in the seive. Mix with same volume of the c/s mix and same amount if grit, eg.chicken grit, or aquarium gravel from pets at home etc, or the kind b&q sell as horticultural/alpine grit like for topping stone sinks with. Mix it all up and make it damp, not wet.

    Please don't keep taking plants out, as you have now learnt that it will do them more harm than good!

    Water the ones without roots when they have roots, keep out of direct sun, if it ever shines again and don't mist them. If the mix dries completely and they start to shrivel, moisten the soil lightly.

    The two plants in the last pic are etiolated, they are stretched due to lack of light, they need more, place in a brighter spot. They should be half that height or less and much tighter in growth. Don't place in full sun immediately, do it over a day or so else they can burn. They won't really recover as they are so tall, by new growth will be tighter and then you could recut and root the top maybe. Someone who grows these particular plants can advise better than I.

    Gill


    Sharif Said thanked greenclaws UK, Zone 8a
  • 10 years ago

    Hi Gill

    thanks for your comments and yes I'm a Londoner! I have just put my name on my account.

    Okay I'll stay away from that brand and might try a different one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Westlands-Horticulture-Litre-Gro-Sure-Perlite/dp/B00B5DVT6U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466460645&sr=8-1&keywords=perlite

    In regards to the stretched plant, I also thought it looked a little stretched however I have it in full sun pretty much all day. I have a skylight in my bedroom so have it directly under the window, one of the haworthias turned red under these conditions so I had to relocate it, so I'm not sure why the other 2 are elongated :-(

  • 10 years ago

    Pardon me but I do grow all of these & wish to clarify.

    I believe the last 2 plants pictured are Aloes jucunda or juvenna & they do grow in that tallish manner, not the more short, squat form of the first 2 plants which are both Haworthias.

    The point of amending the mix is to make it porous & fast draining.

    Look at the texture of the mix in these pots.

    These are all different kinds of Aloes on a West window. The one on the right just tried to bloom but blasted, weather got strange, sigh.

    Gill,

    This may be more of that same last plant Aloe, It's a taller one as I said, not eliolated here at all, just normal growth.


    Sharif,

    Pls. read on succulents & their ability to hold water in reserve in their fat, fleshy tissues. This allows them to go w/out water for some time. These are not fragile or delicate houseplants or tropicals that need such frequent watering.

    I say this as you're a bit too concerned w/ giving them water, you seem to need it more than they do, they have evolved to need less of it. So pls. let go some of that concern about wateriing, it's both unnecessary & can actually harm the plant & rot it

    Also, Haworthias, don't necessarily want full sun. The edge of a window can provide partial shade which they often like.


    The Aloes will want full sun after being exposed to it gradually.

    Oh, it's great that you've got clay pots, even the tiny ones, that'll help these guys. Have fun!

    Lena

  • 10 years ago

    @Lena, thanks for the clarification ;-)

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Lena

    many thanks for your feedback, I will take all the comments onboard and hopefully have thriving succulents!

    sharif

  • 10 years ago

    You're welcome (you too Gill); once you fix your soil, you'll be off to a great start. They're a very nice selection you've made.

    Lena

  • 10 years ago

    Hi again you helpful bunch! Just one more question (I promise)

    before I start, I have just bought the perlite stuff and wanted to confirm if I'm mixing that with the current soil I have 50/50?

    Also can someone kindly identify the succulent in the picture below as it was just labeled aloe. Cant believe i managed to get it for £1 because the pot was damaged!

    Many thanks in advance :-)

  • 10 years ago

    Yes, 50/50 cactus mix and perlite will be fine. I personally work in thirds for cacti and succs, but I only grow a limited variety, the third 'third' is the grit I mentioned, but this is just my own personal preference...mainly as I grow several jades and some are rather large and need more stability than a 50/50mix gives.

    Can I ask Where you bought the perlite please? It looks like a good one as I can't see those small useless bits or dust piled in the corners etc. The Wilko and Verve/B&Q ones I've previously used were very wasteful. I would be interested to hear from you what it's like when you open the bag....hopefully there won't be piles of dust hiding in there! I used an old kitchen sieve I keep in my g/h...sieve it downwind please as you don't want to inhale perlite dust. ;-)

    Gill

    Sharif Said thanked greenclaws UK, Zone 8a
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks again for your help! I bought it from Homebase, you can also get it on Amazon. Cost about a fiver. I'm probably going to start repotting everything tomorrow so I will let you know if it's decent stuff once I open it :-)

    Sharif


  • 10 years ago

    Hi Gill

    just used the perlite and its seems pretty good, practically no waste, would definitely recommend it. The one succulent I potted however seems very wobbly, might have to add some gravel like you suggested

    sharif

  • 10 years ago

    Here's a pic by the way: