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Black v.s White Windows/doors trim cost

Shami
July 22, 2016

I am in the process of planing my first (and hopefully only) house. Anew construction, outside color is going to be white and I would love to have black trim windows and doors, but from what I understand is that they are generally more expensive.

Why is that? and how much more should I expect it to be?


Thank you

Comments (51)

  • PRO
    Patricia Colwell Consulting

    Vinyl windows cost less and usually if you are going aluminum clad fo black they are always priced higher no matter what color they are. Vinyl in black would fade.

  • PRO
    Gray & Walter, Ltd.

    Any time you order something other than standard it will cost more. However, the cost difference is negligible so do not let that deter you. If this is what you want it is a good choice. As you say you only want to do this once, proceed with confidence otherwise you will regret your decision if you compromise.

  • Shami

    Thank you all for the comments. I do believe that black windows with the white exterior and fairly light interior will give the house more character.

  • Tricia

    @Shami - How did it turn out? I would love to hear about if the black windows were more expensive, and if you went with vinyl, wood, aluminum, etc..... I am working with a builder right now and they are not wanting to let me go with the black windows even though they are the aesthetic I desire. Share a picture of the final exterior if you can!

  • Shami

    Tricia, after a long search and several bids, I ended up going with Pella Imperiva. Black interior/black exterior. It's a fiberglass window which is more durable than vinyl. They feel and look high quality. Cheaper than aluminum. They were significantly cheaper than Anderson 400 (other black/black option). I also went with single hung and that reduces the price compared to double hung or casement.... price ended up not being much more than a regular vinyl window in my builder's initial bid. My builder tried to convince me to do the usual window and I'm glad I insisted. I love the way it looks inside and out. (Especially with the drywall return and no frame on the outside). Hope this helps. Feel free to ask anything


  • Lauren Matich Healey

    Absolutely love the window choice. Kudos for sticking with your instinct, Shami.

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  • Michelle Mogg
    Did they say anything about the black window trim fading? I am also thinking of a White House w black window trim.
  • Shami

    No, but I am guessing there will be some fading over time. The windows are made from fiberglass (Pella Imperiva) rather than vinyl or wood painted black so I'm hoping it's more durable. I'm not sure where you looking to build in, but I live in WI and sun exposure might not be as bad as CA or something like that.... It's also just something you got to accept when dealing with black color....

  • Tanisha H
    Omg! I'm obsessed with your windows! What does single hung or double hung mean?
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  • simstress
    Single hung means only the bottom sash moves up to let air in and out -- essentially how you would typically expect a window to operate. Double hung means the bottom sash can move up, and top sash can also move down; these sashes often "tip" inward allowing you to clean the exterior glass without having to step outside.
  • tracy d

    Hi! What other brands did you look at? And how did you choose Pella? Thanks for sharing!

  • Shami

    Tracy, I looked at Anderson 400, and Marvin, as those are the big 3 window makers. Went with Pella because it was priced better than the others (esp Anderson which was very expensive), the fiberglass was more durable than vinyl, and they were already painted black exterior and interior. Hope this helps....

  • guttut

    I love the look and this is such great info! Can you advise us on how much more it was verses the standard vinyl windows? 10,20,30% higher...Our current home has quite a few windows. We really want to go with the black windows like yours.

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  • Shami

    The difference I had in bids was about 20% more expensive. Thing is, there were no black interior and exterior vinyl option in any of the manufacturers I looked, so had to go with the more expensive fiberglass. You should check with your window supplier, maybe things changed. I feel like black windows are a trend now so manufacturers may have that option.... Also, dark vinyl windows tend to fade with time so depending on your sun exposure......

  • PRO
    Windermere Real Estate

    Love your home!! Congrats. I am looking into the black interior windows as well. I was thinking of mixing the Andersen 100 series (black inside and out) in the bedrooms for cost savings and doing a bit nicer in the kitchen. Did you hear anything bad about the Andersen 100 series? I had a bid for the Pella Impervia and it was $50K and that did not include all of my windows. Yikes.

  • quasiexpert

    Drawbacks to the 100 Series for me:

    There is no double hung option.


    Otherwise, they look nice & perform well IMHO.

  • Jennifer Cole

    Love the look!! Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us.

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  • Chad Walker

    Shami, love your design style. House looks amazing! Just curious how things are holding up since the build? Any major fading with the black fiberglass impervia? Has anyone else on here that has inquired want to share if they have tried the Andersons or any other black on black? Thanks in advance

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  • Shami


    Thanks Chad. No fading so far, but the only issue I had was that with a recent temp drop in WI (-15 degrees or so) a couple of the windows had some frost forming at the corners. My builder looked at it and will contact Pella to see whether it's a defect or just installation issue. I think the seal wasn't installed properly... we'll see. Otherwise happy with their look and function.

  • Chad Walker

    On Wisconsin... But damn those sub-zero temps! I’m in Pardeeville, WI Hoping to get some impervia single hungs for our build this spring. Your research and post has been very helpful thank you!

  • Sara Keeler

    Also curious i see you did black gutters vs white, are they more expensive?

  • Shami

    Sara, there was no increase cost for black gutters.

  • Chad Walker

    Shami, I brought up the frost in the corners to my builder and he recommended an air to air exchanger install as part of my build to avoid that.

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  • Dana C.

    I've been trying to decide between Pella's Portobello color (dark but not black) or White for the exterior. Something to consider is that replacement windows show a lot more of the window frame than in a new build situation. We want to paint the brick white and I'm concerned our traditional house will look good but trendy with a dark frame, but with no shutters white on white could look boring.. It's a $30,000+ decision and that's for vinyl!

  • Chad Walker

    The Anderson’s and Pellas are both said to be Fiberglass. I ended up choosing the Pella Impervia also thanks to all of Shami’s research. Hoping to post some pictures within the next month or so. This is as far as we got yesterday.

  • Visruth Premraj

    Hi shami,

    My new home builder is quoting $495 for a single hung 2/8 x 5/0 vinyl window and an additional $135 per window to make it black (just exterior, interior stays white). Do you think the fiberglass option comes out to be cheaper than this?

    Thanks in advance!

  • Heather Smith-Goodwin

    I just ordered my Anderson 100 series black/black. I had 19 windows to get and some were BIG. I will receive them next week (hopefully). I spent about 13K. It is about a 5 1/2 week wait for these so I hope they come in time.

  • Shami

    Visruth,

    Seems very expensive for a vinyl window. Does the price you have is including installation or just the windows themselves? The price I got for the Pella Imperiva (black/black fiberglass) for same size window was $480...

  • Visruth Premraj
    Hi Shami, thanks for the quick reply!

    I assume the price of $630 I mentioned includes installation too since this is the price they add and subtract when I add or remove windows.

    Does the $480 you mentioned include installation costs? Any idea how much it was per window?

    Great looking house btw! Love the corner wood accents!
  • Shami

    Visruth, my house was a new construction so the price was for the windows alone (480 for a window similar in size to yours). My builder installed them as part of the contract and I’m sure there was a cost to it. Maybe you can ask your builder for a break down of the costs.

  • Chad Walker

    Heather Smith-Goodwin any progress on yours? We had some major snags with our whole process build, very long story. Anyway Pellas got switched Andersons. I think with the patio door we were at $10k. The Pellas were right there also but Windsor Buiding Systems rescinded the offer after I got the loan and had the foundation in. Lots of frustration but it’s still coming along. Here is current photos. I guess it will be a good comparison with Shami on how the Anderson's perform/hold up vs. the Pellas in Wisconsin’s extreme weather changes.

  • millworkman

    Which Andersen series? By switching from Pella and Jeldwen to most anything Andersen you are definitely moving up the food chain as your previous two windows are not a quality window. Unless of course you ended up with Silverline then the move is lateral.

  • Heather Smith-Goodwin
    Hi Chad,

    Yes, we finally got them. Of course it was not when they had said and was a big ordeal. Not happy with Anderson themselves but the windows look great and hopefully will hold up and not fade. The 100 series did not come with screens but I ended up ordering those and just got those last week.
  • Chad Walker

    MIllworkman- 100 series.


    Thanks for the post Heather, how much did the screens run? I missed that.


    Shami did the Pella Impervia include screens?

  • Heather Smith-Goodwin
    The screens for 19 windows ran about $1000.00 Chad. Not too bad to me to be able to lift the windows without letting all the bugs in. I believe the 400 series comes with them.
  • jlshopping
    Thank you everyone for commenting. This post has been very helpful.
  • Chad Walker

    Some progress. Anyone have a good texture contact in the Madison area. Skip trowel plaster or knock down drywall. Mine fell through

  • Heather Smith-Goodwin

    Color palate · More Info

    This is about a month ago. Almost move in ready. The front of the house gets heavy sun almost all day and the glue that binds the panes to the glass at the very top on the bottom sashes has pulled back a little on the very top of the window on about 3 windows. Thank goodness I went through a good vendor who is taking care of it for me. Andersen will be sending replacement sashes. Even though they will take their sweet time just like they did with delivering them.

  • zthar

    Love the black windows, hoping to upgrade soon, appreciate all the feedback and info.

  • Sarah Zilan

    Heather - Looks AMAZINGGGG!!! This is the look we are hoping to get once we start our home project (likely a whole home reno plus addition) and hubby and I are going back and forth on the black int/black ext! I’m all about them, he’s iffy (mainly for cost/trendy reasons which I keep saying it’s not a trend, just a very classic look).

  • loriejjohnson
    This conversation has been extremely helpful in coming to a decision on windows for our new construction. I’ve loved the look of black windows since early in the planning process, but I’ve gone back and forth, afraid to commit. We’ve decided to do black/black. I had planned to follow Shami’s lead and go with Pella Impervia. After doing a little more research I found that recently Marvin has started offering a black/black fiberglass option in their Integrity line. I’m thinking this is going to be the best choice for us. I can’t wait to get started and finally see them installed!
  • Shami

    Chad,

    very nice.

    my windows came with screens (Now I have to get some replacement screens because grasshoppers chewed through some of them!!! Insane!). So far a couple of winters and no issues

  • Shami

    glad this discussion helps others too. We are very happy with the windows and the black/black look. Our house is on the modern spectrum and goes well together.

    interiorly did drywall return, rather than a frame and it looks sharp (while also reduced the cost of the windows overall).

  • Chad Walker

    Love the clean look drywall return Gives. They talked us out of doing the bottoms though so we have a sill there.


  • Zulemi Montesuma

    Love your idea for your house! I believe the color does not make such a big difference than the one about the window maker you select. But definitely make sure to select the right material to avoid the fading over time issue.

  • Chad Walker

    Heather Smith-Goodwin did you get your issues resolved with Anderson? Do you have pictures of said issues? i have a few already myself .



  • tbailey72

    does anybody know if the do the white windows inset like the black I have seen? are they the same price as the black?



  • mikeseiler
    heather....your house looks just like a house down the street. are you in brick nj?
  • brendaewilson

    Trying to get a bid on my house for black framed windows inside and out, who has gotten bids and on what different kinds. I am finding they are 4xs the price of white on white but my heart is set on the other. HELP!

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