We just had Medallion kitchen cabinets installed, and it sounds like our spaces are similar. We went with their white shaker in the Lancaster line and our cabinets were roughly $10k with the crown molding. We priced out Kraftmaid also for the exact same thing and our quote was $16,500.

Forgot to add that pantries are often very expensive, so you may want to get quotes with just one pantry instead of 2. We only went with one.

Does a walk in pantry not have a possibility as an alternative for you, rather than four feet of tall pantries....you are losing counter run space. look closely at your room before you commit to a plan. Just for estimating, I'd calculate 16-18000 minimum for cabinets if you proceed with the pantries. Always good to get your budget at the forefront of your planning.

herb- with the shallow depth, i dont think we have room. I dont have 4 ft on one wall given the way things lay out. also, since the fridge will likely need to be on an end towards a window, i was trying to use the pantry to take up the space between the fridge and window, which is far enough away from the heart of the kitchen that countertop on that side of the fridge would make no sense. i could potentially do away with the one on the non fridge wall (shorter wall). It would probably make sense for me to post my layout and let people here optimize it. I need to finish up my thoughts on it and post it.

Mid to high teens is your rough ballpark.

Medallion Silverline "Lancaster" is a great value if budget isn't there for Inset! Lancaster is a full overlay shaker cabinet w/ a standard slab drawer. You can upgrade drawer fronts to be matching if you like though.

KraftMaid and Medallion Gold will be more $$$.

I used Shiloh cabinets for an 11x15 kitchen - no island, no pantries. The cabinets were $18,000 for 36" painted Shaker with crown molding trim. This included nearly all drawers on the bottom, and 1 double/2 single glass door cabinets, and a cabinet built around the refrigerator. I got full inset cabinet doors - no uncharge with Shiloh. They're gorgeous! VERY high quality, very solid, great finish.

perfect, keep the responses coming

I haven't done my kitchen yet but would love to in the next year or so. When I redid my master bathroom I needed a new 72" vanity. Omega quoted me $1600. My budget was $1000. I ended up using a local company (I went to school with the guys family who owns it). Anyway, he built me a beautiful one piece cherry inset cabinet. There's NO way I could have gotten inset with any big brands in my price range so I was delighted to have found this local guy. I ended up paying $1050. I'll use him again when I redo my kitchen.

So, consider shopping local too. My guy isn't a super fancy high end cabinet maker. In fact, he puts builder grade cabinets in lots of new cookie cutter neighborhoods. He also did a kitchen on a 4 million dollar home.. So what I'm trying to say is, he can do custom, but it isn't his main thing, which I believe made him more affordable.

If you're going with the big brands, expect to pay the big $$$. Someone has to pay the designer, showroom, etc. I bypassed all that because I had too (I couldn't afford it lol). Don't get me wrong, I would have loved Omega. But I'm so happy I was able to support a local company and save money, all while getting exactly what I wanted.

If it's hard to go into a store you could probably make a phone appointment with a cabinet person at Home Depot to price out Kraftmaid. You could also look at Ikea if the prices seem prohibitive - lots of folks here love them. I've seen a lot of variation in terms of what people pay here - some is regional and a lot will be related to your specific cabinetry.

I snuck away and went to Home Depot last week and they just gave me a rough number by linear foot without asking question like do you have pantries, how tall are uppers, etc. the designer told me they would need to come measure for more detailed estimates, even though I had reasonably good measurements with me. I don't want to pay their 175 or whatever fee to get an estimate at this point.

I am in NYC so costs are extremely variable and I can't imagine it will be easy to find reasonable custom quotes. I definitely plan to look at it.

Oh weird - HD gave me an exact bid based on the drawing I brought in. That is much less helpful!

National average 60K replacement remodels usually have cabinets and their install as 30/40% of the overall budget.

A basic Real kitchen (one that actually has crown molding and knobs and some drawer stacks) in a True Mid Range cabinet line will start at $500-600 a linear foot. You have about 35-40 feet, counting the peninsula that will need to be finished on the rear, so counting double. That is a bogus way of estimating, as if you look at the diagrams, that includes appliance holes and Windows.

Start adding integral door finished ends and stacked crown and glass and your price goes up. At least another third. Installation is ball parked at 12-15% of the cabinet costs. More complex details raise that price.

You have a larger than average kitchen, which will equate to a larger than average price. Reduce your cabinet costs by a drywall pantry or soffits for shorter cabinets. Or just less cabinets overall.

I live in a mid-size city in the midwest. In addition to the approx $18,000 for the cabinets, I paid $1400 to remove old cabinets, and $2500 for installation.

Removal of old soffits was done by someone I hired - new ceiling and painting it - around $1600. I already had pot lights in the ceiling, but I needed one more and to have some wiring tucked in and a junction box replaced (found when soffit was removed), and moved/added/removed an outlet or two, so the electrical really added up - probably around $1500. Removing and reinstalling my existing kitchen faucet/garbage/dishwasher, was another $500. Painting walls and trim was still more money. Removing and reinstalling Corian countertops was $700 plus $600 for a new countertop where there had been none before. Flooring stayed. It all adds up. I had budgeted $25,000 with an extra $5,000 if needed - it was. I did have to replace the disposal - seals were shot on old one. Other than that, all the appliances stayed.

If I had had to do extensive wiring, new floors, new countertops, new appliances, it could easily have been close to $60,000. I was lucky I liked what I had and they worked. I would not have done the kitchen otherwise - could not have afforded it and it would have been ridiculous at age 72.

I would also check craigslist. Many times a new homeowner of a high-end home just rips out a perfectly good to brand-new kitchen and then the new homeowner remodels to a kitchen of their own tastes. I was very lucky and got beautiful Omega Morris cherrywood cabinets plus some granite tops for under $3K (which amount also includes my cost to hire a moving company to move it). Before I started shopping on craigslist I knew my kitchen's measurements.

Craigslist is actually a pretty cool idea

We put there the kitchen we weren't going to use, from the previous owners(for much cheaper though-but than it was IKEA, in great condition and all, but melamine etc)-and I got so many responses I could not believe it

The next day DH told me to take the ad off since he'd rather use the kitchen himself:)

So with the help of an amazing handyman, we took it to the garage, granite and all.

But yes, sometimes you can find the whole kitchens there.

Also, recently somebody linked to this site: http://www.kitchentrader.com/find/

The Full kitchen projects that we do, with 100% professional licensed and insured labor, range in price from 20-90K. The homes that those kitchens are going in range from 150K-800K. They generally follow the 15-20% rule for investing in a kitchen redo. We do laminate tops and stock cabinets all the way through full custom and Quartz counters. The center of the bell cluster is 45-70K, with about 60% of the projects falling in that zone.

15-20% 'rule' sounds like it was made up by the same people who came up with the 3 months salary for an engagement ring. I don't know a single person in my neighborhood of $4-500k homes who has or would spend anywhere near $60-100k on a kitchen remodel.

Freeoscar- I thought the 10% rule sounded too high, then again I am in a high cost area.

I am also in the NYC area, and I'd say that 5-10% is normal. Of course if you are doing major structural work that adds space or results in a different flow the numbers can go much higher, but presumably those are adding value beyond just bringing the finishings and appliances up to date.

freeoscar - "15-20% 'rule' sounds like it was made up by the same people who came up with the 3 months salary for an engagement ring. "

LOL!! I'm with you. I'm in a cookie cutter neighborhood and the highest home just sold for 305k. I'd be looking at 45,000 at 15%. There's no way I would spend that! It would take 15-20 years to recoup those costs and by then the kitchen would probably be outdated hahaha!

If you have the money and can afford the designer and fancy cabinet maker then go for it. There's nothing wrong with that. I tend to think more frugally and would never consider 45k kitchen on my house. But I'm someone who believes I can have a nice kitchen for half that because I can use a reasonably priced local cabinet maker and I have a licensed contractor who is also very reasonable. It's not what you know, but who you know.

The percent was based on thousands of real life kitchen renovations studied over time. Tying in the amount spent with home value keeps anyone from putting in a SubZero Wolf level kitchen into a home that won't reward that expenditure with a reasonable increase in value. It also keeps those in higher priced brackets from installing the same builder grade kitchen that they are attempting to upgrade from. In a very low cost home area or a very high cost home area, the % are less accurate. A lower cost home will spend a higher %, and a higher cost home will spend less of a %.

I just finished a kitchen in a 160K new married's starter home. 10x12. They spent 17K. Diamond Cabinets, demolition of The existing space, new range, basic granite counters, new recessed lighting from a licensed Electriciann, a farm sink, and plumbing disconnects and reconnects from a licensed Plumber. They did not get new floors, backsplash, or painting done. Basically, half of a redo, and the expensive half at that. For 17K.

Youll note that we used the less expensive partial overlay cabinets in order to give them the open shelving, farm sink, and chimney hood that was their priority. It was a trade off they were willing to make to get the look.

live_wire_oak - thank you for sharing pictures and costs. The kitchen turned out great! Seeing examples like this helps me so much, especially in terms of redoing my own kitchen someday.

I wasn't trying to argue the averages thrown out.. I'm sure lots of people spend 60k and well above that. I think #s get thrown around on this site sometimes so seeing your real life example helps show there are nice lower end kitchens getting done that look great and fit within the home's overall value.

You say "In a very low cost home area or a very high cost home area, the % are less accurate." Okay, this makes sense since the percentages are based on averages... Common sense 101.

You also say, "A lower cost home will spend a higher %, and a higher cost home will spend less of a %." Is this backwards or am I missing something?

Labor is the biggest expenditure in any redo. You are not going under a certain cost in labor, no matter how budget you go with the materials.

If the installer charges $1500 for basic installation of 30 feet of cabinets, it doesn't matter if those are plain door and drawer bases, or drawer bases full of organizers and pull out trash and tray bases. It is $1500 for 30 feet, whether the cabinet cost is 10K or 20K. (Unless there is a lot more crown or custom site modifications in the 20 K kitchen)

A DW hookup, sink connect, faucet install, and disposal install costs pretty much the same $750 regardless if all of those materials cost 1K or 5K.

The labor is gonna be a bigger % of a low cost kitchen vs a high cost kitchen. There is a basement to material costs too. It's really difficult to spend less than 6K on cabinets without going import or stock off the shelf. And so the ratio to home value is higher on a low cost kitchen. Especially for those brats watching House Hunters dismissively sniffing that granite is no longer good enough, never mind laminate!

The couple whose kitchen I did painted themselves, and will tackle the subway tile backsplash, and vinyl plank floors over that tile, later this fall. After the husband gets done working the overtime to pay off the 12 months no interest option that they chose.

Demolishing the tile, grinding the slab flat, installing $5 a square glue own engineered wood, painting everything, and the subway tile backsplash was another 14K. That they saved by some DIY and leaving the tile alone. And that FIY component is what is missing from the "average" numbers. Those numbers are 100% turnkey. No DIY. Some people just don't have the time or skill for that They are the ones paying for Full Projects

We're in NYC too. I have some old quotes from our original white shaker design last fall. They range from $10,000 - $15,000 from various places. Costco - Tuscan Hills Ultimo Cabinetry Line for this layout was $10,669 ($2,667 off). Home Depot was about $9,800 after some discounts; however, it was one of the cheaper lines in a white shaker style. We also got quotes from Starmark and Showplace (Jersey).

Spend what you are comfortable spending. There is no minimum or maximum. This Tribeca penthouse has inexpensive cabinets in comparison to the price of the apartment $15.500/month). I am trying to recall which cabinet vendor showed this to me. I think it was Showplace but it may have been Starmark.

http://streeteasy.com/building/23-leonard-street-new_york/ph

https://www.elliman.com/new-york-city/23-leonard-street-ph-manhattan-rrummiq

Thanks all. Live wire oak, I wasn't trying to discredit you, just that in my area it is likely far out of the averages or I am totally unprepared to even come close to thinking about doing a kitchen. I think the kitchens around here generally don't fit with the housing prices. You rarely see anything but standard size appliances.

Check out http://www.bigreuse.org/inventory/kitchen for reusable cabinets

Well my kitchen will wind up being about 5-7% of the cost of my house build.

Katrina-

where did you end up getting your cabinets? what about other kitchen stuff. Are you in Manhattan?

cpartist- that is more of the range I am likely looking at.

queensinfo Brooklyn. Our Ikea kitchen designer comes next week to measure and do the layout. Our cabinet budget significantly changed once we decide to do a gut renovation, hire an architect, expand the bathroom and knock down multiple walls. However, I'd still go with Ikea even if we had more cash to put toward cabinets.

We need a new dishwasher but we are keeping our refrigerator (less than 1 year old) and our stove (about 3 years old). They are still working on the bathroom so I haven't ordered anything yet for the kitchen. I may get the dishwasher from PC Richards unless I find a better price online with free shipping and no tax.

Kitchen cabinets will be less than 10% of the renovation budget.

I found a ton of Ikea cabinets renovations that shocked me to know they were Ikea.

http://www.houzz.com/projects/1448805/ikea-sektion-kitchen-remodel

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/dans-kitchen-the-big-reveal-renovation-diary-201979

http://allieathome.com/ikea-semihandmade-kitchen-renovation-before-and-after/

http://www.remodelista.com/posts/ikea-upgrade-a-kitchen-remodel-with-cabinet-fronts-from-semihandmade-of-la/

Where in Queens are you? That too I would think would be the difference in what you pay for a new kitchen. (I'm on Long Island.)

Cpartist-a house in forest hills.

Katrina-

thanks for the extra info and those kitchens look fantastic. I can't even fathom the logistical issues of not only putting together hundreds of boxes of ikea cabinets and draws but having them professionally painted as well. I think I'll try and enter my plans and price it out just to get an idea.

Using the IKEA planner is a great idea to get an idea of the lowest price that you can expect to pay for cabinets. They are a terrific resource for DIYers who want to save some funding and are up for it. Unfortunately, that basement price is about half of most mid grade lines when it comes to cabinet costs. Just keep that in mind. Good luck!

queensinfo Oh no, we are not DIY. Our GC is handling the cabinet installation as part of his labor quote.

Check out Kabinet King in Queens. We didn't end up ordering from them but they have a ton of options in once place to give you a good idea of pricing.

Karen Kantor, Kitchen Designer
Kabinet King
211-36 Hillside Ave
Queens Village, NY 11427
P - 718-740-7800
Website - http://www.kabinetking.com/whitekitchencabinets.html

Cpartist-a house in forest hills.

So you absolutely can go more a bit more upscale. Unfortunately the KD's and kitchen places I used to know are all gone now. (I'm old. LOL) I think you could easily get away with a good mid range cabinet and still be ahead of the game.

Just came across my old Home Depot quote from last fall:

$9,066.00 and after discounts Home Depot offered, $7,384.00 pre-tax total.

It was for a shaker style cabinet in white. I don't recall the brand name.

Thanks. I just posted my floor plan to get some help. Hopefully it will all start to come together.