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Bad Renters. Time to Sell?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Hello, we are in a neighborhood where about 50% of the homes are being rented out by the owners. There is no HOA, but it's a nice desireble neighborhood near a scenic park and close to the university. For the most part the renters in the area are polite and take good care of the properties. Many of them are professionals and work at the college.

We own our home and have been there for a little over three years. Unfortunately, we have had many problems with the renters on each side of us.

the first renters confronted me outside in the middle of winter at 6am as I was getting ready for work accusing me of calling the cops on them because their cars were parked illegally. It was very uncomfortable and made us feel very unwelcome in the neighborhood we had just moved to. They were very rude to us and called my wife the b-word. They would not believe us when we told them we didn't care and never called the cops on them. Later I found out later another neighbor had been calling the cops in them but the renters assumed it was us. Fortunately, They moved out after six months.

Then the next tenant was a younger mom with two teenagers living with her. They would scream and curse at each other often. Often so bad we could hear them when we were walking at the park. We would always think "please don't let that be our neighbors". They were finally evicted for not paying rent.

since then the property has sat vacant. We have had to call code enforcement twice in 1 year because weeds were taking over their yard. The owner apparently lives out of town.

Meanwhile at the house on the other side of ours...

The man who lived next to us when we bought the house moved out and a couple from out of state moved in. the husband came to work on the oil fields. They would yell and scream at each other. The woman stayed home all the time and smoked pot (very strong smell when she left the windows open). We could hear them yelling at each other late at night and most weekends but we just put up with it. Eventually something happened and the police were called for domestic abuse. They moved out shortly after.

next a nice couple with two young kids moved in only to move out less than a month later because the said the house was infested with fleas!

less than a week later another couple moved in. They seemed okay for the first few days but the wife stays home all the time and is either yelling at the husband or someone on the phone. Last weekend she was cursing and saying some very inappropriate things while standing outside on the phone. She was so loud and vulgar that a family at the park having their photos taken by a photographer quickly rushed their kids to the other side of the park.

We love our area, and nature in general, so we feed the birds and squirrels that live in the big elm trees on our property. My wife likes to feed the squirrels. Yesterday the neighbors took notice that my wife was feeding the squirels and made a comment about it. The woman asked my wife if she was feeding the squirels at the same time her son yelled out the window "stop feeding them!". It made my wife feel uncomfortable but she shrugged it off. It's our property we will do as we like.

Today my wife put a little bit of food out for the squirels, and about 20 minutes later we look out the window and the woman is spraying water the ground on our property where we put the food with a hose and spraying the squirels up in the tree.

I went outside and asked her to stop, and then asked her what she was doing. The said she was just "messing with the squirels". i explained that we like the animals in our yard. She said sorry but she seemed pretty annoyed.

We are really trying to stay out of people's business and hopefully we can enjoy some peace and quite but that hasn't been the case. Most of the renters have had some serious domestic issues and absolutely no respect for anyone around them.

not really sure what to do next, I am planning on calling their landlord tomorrow but I am concerned that it may escallate to more problems with the neighbors, This is our first house, before that we rented for years and NEVER had these kinds of issues!

As much as we love our house we are actually considering putting it up for sale and moving some place with fewer rentals.

any advice or similar situations you want to share?

Sorry for the long post!

Comments (13)

  • 9 years ago

    If I were that unhappy, I would move. You cannot guarantee that a landlord will resolve this for you. Really, anything could happen.

  • 9 years ago

    Sound like you live in an area where there are few fences, if you love the house you might consider putting up a couple. Do these people work at the college? That would be scary! If you do decide to move be sure to check out the new neighborhood well & on weekends & at night so you have a good idea what it's like & talk to couple of neighbors down the street & casually mention that it looks like a very quiet neighborhood , don't mention at 1st that you are thinking of buying, ask if the people are mostly associated with the college or professionals, don't want to move into fraternity row! Good luck!

  • 9 years ago

    For one reason or another, some people just never learned about being good neighbors, or how their actions and habits affect their neighbors. I cringe when I think about us 4 teenagers in a series of suburban rentals with a single mom and an incessantly barking dog chained out back. Now that I'm a homeowner with neighbors, I get it.

    It's good to keep this in mind when people are doing things that seem entirely inappropriate, like yelling and screaming at all hours, letting their dogs poop in your yard, trimming your trees, or spraying your squirrels. They have not learned 'boundaries.' You can attempt to gently and politely inform them that perhaps they can try and keep it down after 9 pm, or that you would not let your dog poop in THEIR yard and you'd appreciate it if they clean it up if it happens, that they can trim whatever hangs over the fence but please leave the rest of the tree alone, or that they can spray the squirrels in their own yard but once they're in yours, you'd like it to be a safe haven for the wildlife. Some may get it, some may not. But the landlord and the cops should be saved for a last resort, after you attempt to appeal to their humanity directly. This is the process of civility, starting with polite and direct, with escalating consequences if need be. JHMO. You may end up with some friends.

  • 9 years ago

    And then there are the few who don't get along with each other or anyone else. Those folks often loose jobs, divorce, kids leave as soon as they can & start the cycle over again. They can change if they really wanted to but often don't know how. I saw some marriage films at church long ago & they said that if hubby & wife are arguing don't say things like "you always" you never"' you,you you is running your partner into the ground. Also" I never get to , I can't", stop making it about "poor me" try," we need to work on this." I need to figure out why I loose job after job! "(probably need to ask a friend if they can diagnosis the problem- but then don't be angry with the friend) Might want to use a tape recorder if they argue all the time & you've asked them to stop or they get angry, play it back on "Loud" inside your house pointed in their direction, they may not know how awful they sound. Have to be careful doing something like that if they are mentally unstable or if they have guns. Toxcrusadr is right, try to make friends, get more with honey as they say, try taking over some cookies you baked! In So Ca fences work quite well in most cases.

  • 9 years ago

    I would move as soon as I could.

    We've rented and we've owned. When we moved to the city where we live now, we rented a house in a neighborhood predominantly of rental houses. The owner to renter ratio in this neighborhood was probably 35% owners to 65% renters.

    We were GOOD tenants. We took care of the place as if it were our own. Neighbors on 2 sides were owners and we made friends with them. We lived there for almost 2 years before we bought our current home.

    The neighbors behind were awful. There were 4 different tenants within that 2 yr time span and all of them were just deplorable.

    The people who lived in the rent house before & after us were terrible tenants. The landlord told us this AND the neighbors as well. The neighbors practically begged us to stay. You could tell just by driving down the street which house was a rental
    and which wasn't. I would want to have been an owner/dweller in that
    neighborhood.

    There's no way I'd live in a neighborhood that was mostly rental properties. You will ALWAYS have the problems your experiencing now. There may be a break once in a while, but you never know who your neighbor is. Unfortunately, there is no "pride in ownership" if you don't own.





  • 9 years ago

    Unfortunately some of the things you mentioned also occur with owned units.

    If you decide to stay, one thing you can do is try to find the next renters, try to get people you know to move next door as soon as it comes vacant again. Talk to the landlord about possibly improving the home to get a higher rent and a different caliber of renter.

    If you do sell, some neighborhoods have a cap on the % of rentals allowed btw so this may be something to try to find out about in when you are looking. You may also be able to find out who the HOA president is and ask about attending their next meeting, most of the info is usually online. You will be able to see if/how they enforce the rules if you are able to attend a meeting.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Move.

  • 9 years ago

    Sounds like a transient neighborhood. Look to move to a neighborhood where home ownership numbers outweigh the renters. I have favorite neighborhoods where there is rarely a for sale sign. Love those.

  • 9 years ago

    I think you situation could be compared with the one at work. You can like your job very much, be passionate about what you’re doing. But if you have tense relationship with colleagues, you may be depressed from time to time.

    You neighbors influence you life not in s good way. You may ignore them, but it does not always work. It’s your home and you need to feel comfortable here. So, my advice is search for another property.

  • 9 years ago

    Is there any way you can buy one (or both) of the properties as a rental investment? Youd be helping yourself, AND the neighborhood. Its not renters as a class who are bad for a neighborhood - its landlords who dont live anywhere nearby and/or don't care. Some dont know or care that to get good tenants you have to provide a reasonably good and well maintained place. The only time I had a bad tenant was because I disregarded my own criteria and allowed a friend of a friend of a friend to move in =- by having very strict criteria and income requirements and house rules spelled out in a lease addendum- generally can weed out the riff raff.

    Oh well, its a thought! You have my sympathies - we had recently had a bad tenant next door (not mine) who finally got kicked out, not because she stunk up half the block (no exaggeration) with cheap stinky incense + multiple scented candles going 24/7, but because she didnt pay the rent. The owners had the worst time getting that chemical stench out of there - the walls were saturated with it.... it never fails to amaze me all the ways people come up with to annoy other people!

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My niece used to live in a remodeled funeral home! A quirky, to say the least, apartment. It was split into two units. she loved living there.

    Bu then, was issues with the neighbor. They suspected drugs. They complained to the owner. Finally, the tenant moved out and when they were talking to the owner, he said," So then, you find somebody!" My niece's first reaction was that she didn't want to do his work, but her DH jumped in and said of course! They screened all future tenants even becoming close friends with a few.

    Would this be possible? Contact the management and see if you can help screen tenants? They clearly are not doing their job of maintenance or screening.

    I suspect the rent is too high and that is one reason for the revolving door. The second is that the management company is throwing in the first one who calls.

    Your home will be difficult to sell but I would first approach the owners on either side. They might want to buy it.

    There is so much stress. Living in your own home should not be one of them.

  • 9 years ago

    Honestly I would move. We lived up the street from 4 rental houses. We had a nice group of neighbors, and were tight knit but over the years the renter always were a problem. The first few years it was just annoying. Two landlords just didn't care and eventually those two houses were used to sell drugs. The police didn't do anything no matter how many times we all took turns calling them.

    If you have bad landlords you are always eventually going to end up with bad neighbors.