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Kentia and King Palms dying

9 years ago

Hello,

I am having a hard time understanding where to go with a strip of Kentia and King palms I planted about 6-8 weeks ago. I live in Southern California. It has been very hot the last 3 weeks, heat going from 85 to even 100 a couple times.

I know very little on the topic in general but tried to follow suggestions from a guy at the palm farm. I expected some shock initially, but even the new fronds are turning brown before blossoming.

I threw down sand at the bottom of the holes and back filled with probably 60/40 native soil with a palm mix.

For the first week, I watered every day. The next week every other day. The next month I just was watering it twice a week. The past 2 weeks I've watered it 3x a week. Every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. It doesn't seem to be helping. I have mulch around the bottom and water with a hose. I can't say how much I actually water, but I go down the line of all 5 trees and let it pool a bit then go to the next Tree. I then work my way back each Tree doing the same thing. 24 hours later, I can still see the surface is a bit damp but the water has drained. Come ready for the next watering, the top is dry again.

Too much? Not enough? Any suggestions? I appreciate any help I can get. Thank you very much.


Comments (14)

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for the comment. Will they recover from the burn? Anything to help the transition?

    They were from a nursery and were out in the open. But it is possible that it was more shaded because there were more trees around of different heights.

  • 9 years ago

    The burnt fronds are gone but they should start putting up new fronds called a "spear" because they look like spears as they first come up. The plants should be well stocked with food/energy reserves from their previous healthy growth. That will give them enough to produce the new spears. Going into winter the sun intensity and temperatures will be reducing which will give them time to adjust. In my opinion chances of recovery is very high.

    Robert thanked tropicbreezent
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you again. New fronds have appeared but have already turned brown before opening. That's what has frustrated me the most. I expected.some issue of shock upon planting out of the box, but the new ones were dying quickly. Hopefully patience will help.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    WATER AND MORE WATER! They should have been kept soaking wet from the day they were planted. It wouldn't stop some sunburn- but would have mitigated the damage. For the Howeas its going to be a slow recovery- years. The King palms are much faster..but the browned trunk worries me. That's a deep burn.

    I know it sounds like you watered often enough...but probably not enough or deep enough. A watering ring around those palms filled when watered and then re filled would help.

    You might as well cut off the dead fronds and start from there. Those are some of the best palms to grow..but the start can sometimes get off on the wrong foot in a hot summer.

    You might be happier to add more palms alongside now that temps will be going down so you have something nice to look at for now. It would be worth it instead of getting all frustrated waiting for those to recover.

    Best luck!

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks. I was warned about over watering the Kentia's, so I was a bit concerned that after the first week it was too much.

    It's Thursday. I'll get to it tonight with a heavy watering.

  • 9 years ago

    That fence looks like it's facing south? You are probably getting a lot of reflective heat off the wall and off the water? Not much you can do about it now other than giving adequate water and removing dead fronds. Maybe you can still bunch and tie the frond bundle. Might help and probably wouldn't hurt? If they die, I'd replant with Queen Palm. They are fast growers and very few issues.

    I have one Kentia, under shade, and it is by far the slowest growing palm I have ever seen. Good luck. LB

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, the fence is facing the South.

    I actually wanted Queens. This was my wife's doing lol. I wanted palms, so I let her pick. But I'm doing the work, and a pretty crappy job of it so far.

    Hopefully the time change and weather will help a bit. Thanks for the help.

  • 9 years ago

    Queen palms drop a lot of messy litter that can end up in your pool. Rotting fruit, etc. And they need frond removal. King palm drops their old fronds cleanly--much cheaper to maintain in the long run! Mrs. made the right choice as far as long-term cleanliness of your pool.

    It could be planting in the worst of summer's heat is part of the problem--the palms had no time to adjust to reflected heat and 100F temperatures. Also isn't Kentia more of an understory palm that appreciates shade? Which is why they do so well indoors--less light required.

  • 9 years ago

    I hadn't thought about the fruit litter with Queens, (when they mature) but, if you cut them off early before they bloom it's not a problem. Also, if you let it bloom, it will attracts swarms of bees! And, true, you do need to cut the dead fronds. Big deal, twice a year.

    My Kentia is in shade, hasn't helped much, and those fronds do NOT drop cleanly, BTW.

    But, yeah, could be that you planted your palms at a less than desirable time, but what's done is done. <shrug> Wait and see? LB

  • 9 years ago

    Appreciate the responses. I traded emails with a guy who runs a palm farm near San Diego about my location, where they would be planted, and even the type. He actually is the one that said the layout would pose no problems. I even went down to the farm to check out the product.

    I actually kept the palms in the boxes in my driveway for at least a month before I planted them.

    I was told the heat wouldn't be a problem, although it was not pushing 100 at the time, and they were in the ground for athe the very least 5 weeks before the heat wave came. But I am still aware the shock of the planting and the heat shortly after definitely can have a negative impact.

    I've watered them much longer than I have been, but have kept the same schedule(T-Th-S). I might just do it every other day no matter what to try and get on top of things.

  • 9 years ago

    If you are talking about that nursery on the hill, off I-15, I feel like stopping every time I'm down that way, but I never have. Always in a hurry! But, just to browse, might be fun?

    I wouldn't be too concerned about a rigid watering schedule, if I were you. Just about all palms appreciate water, so they tell me? Assuming you have adequate drainage, go ahead and soak your palms when you feel like it. I really don't think it would hurt. LB

  • 9 years ago

    When its hot- WATER..everyday if needed. Those roots have nothing to draw water from being just planted. I water by hand all my small gardens...if its 85+ I water nearly everyday. When it cools down,I water maybe 3 times a week in summer.

    They say they have high tech irrigation that will not water on cloudy days. I wonder if in coastalsoucal that's a good idea? You could have June gloom and plants not watered just dry up.

    Always backup your system with human sweat!

  • 9 years ago

    I had a similar problem with a palm and it turned out to be a very tiny spider mite. They were very difficult to see. They resisted all organic and chemical treatment. I finally sent the palm to the local dump after months of treatment.

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