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How do I remove the cover to change the bi-pin halogen bulb?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

We rent and have fancy track lighting in our bathroom. It's time to change the bulbs and I cannot get the glass covers off the bulbs. I can see the owner broke one of them, so I know it's a 50 watt bi-pin halogen in there. But there is a screw going through the glass cover and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to remove it. The end of the screw is covered by a metal ring, making it inaccessible. I don't even know if I could access it without the ring, as the glass sconce covers the whole thing. I am at a loss. :( Please help me!!

Comments (24)

  • 9 years ago
    I can't be certain based on your photos, but those seem to be G9 bulbs. If they are, they don't screw in. you push them in and pull them out. Try pulling directly downward on the bulb while using your other hand to maintain upward pressure on the frame.
  • 9 years ago

    They are type GY8.6 Im not having an issue with the bulb so much as the glass cover over the bulb. It has a screw going through two holes in the glass, which is what pins the glass cover in place. I cannot figure out how to remove the cover. Anyone ever see a light fixture like this before?

  • 9 years ago

    Here are some close up pics of the bulb cover with screw


  • 9 years ago

    Take the whole fixture down and replace it with something else. those little bulbs burn out quicker, cost more and make the room hotter than your standard bulbs.

  • 9 years ago

    Beth, I would love to, but we rent. I am stuck with these things. And, honestly, we've lived here 4 years and they only just started burning out. There are 10 bulbs and we are down to 2, so we really need to change them. Any pros out there that can help me, please?!?!?!


  • 9 years ago
    Honestly I don't know either. Perhaps you can look for the fixture model number and google it to find the installation manual, which would probably explain how to install and/or remove the bulbs. Or you could ask your landlord. I'm sure (s)he must have replaced it at some point as halogen bulbs don't last long. Where were the engineers in this design?!
  • 9 years ago

    I have looked all over for a model number. It's probably on the back of the base plate, fixed to the wall. I am going to hold off on removing that for the time being, as I will probably break the whole thing in doing so, lol. The owner's husband, who did all the home repairs up until recently, unexpectedly passed away. I know the widow has as much idea as I do how to change these bulbs, so I'm not going to bother her. If I can't figure it out, I'm going to hire an electrician, but I pray I don't have to hire a professional to change a blessed lightbulb, for goodness sake!!!!!

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Just buy a new LED fixture and install it. YouTube is the place for simple-to-follow instructions. Donate the old fixture. The bulbs / lamps for the existing fixture probably cost more than a new fixture.

  • 9 years ago

    I'm sure your landlord would be more than happy to replace it. if not, do it yourself. you can find cheap bathroom lights in HD like FrenchT said or even search Craigslist for people that are updating. saves on the electricity and AC bills too. If it's been there 4 years, its time for a change. I'm sure they won't sweat you over it!

  • 9 years ago

    Seriously you guys, she will not want me to replace the fixture. It is not an option. Any advice on how to remove the pin would be great.

  • 8 years ago

    Did you by any chance find a way to remove the casing? I have the same problem, but the responses here don't seem to really help much. :p

  • 8 years ago

    Hi David, Thanks much. Do you think we will need that exact tool set in order to replace the bulbs, or would regular tools work out? Would you be kind and able to upload a pic, or product name?

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks David!! Is this tool for the type of frost cover that can be screwed
    on & off? I am (and also Kathleen in her original post was) looking for the exact same fixture, but has screws to the side of the cover that fixes & holds the frost cover, rather than a screw-on type cover. Reusing pic from Kathleen's original post, and highlighting the screw that's causing the problem.

    Would you know the manufacture by any chance?


  • 8 years ago

    Looking at Kathleen's pics, I'd guess that the metal ring is what unscrews - the screw may be a set screw (?) though I'm not sure how you'd access it even with the metal ring unscrewed. The metal ring has two slots - so it needs some sort of tool to fit in those slots. I can't think of anything to substitute, unless you can get your fingers in there and manage to jam them in and turn using the slots for leverage, and that will only work if the rings aren't screwed in tightly. If you can figure out the diameter of the ring, you could probably buy some plastic pipe and then make a tool, but that's a whole lot of work (requiring tools) for a fixture that really, really should be replaced. I guess I don't quite understand why your landlady wouldn't be pleased if you replaced it yourself with something nice and easy to maintain (which also uses less electricity!), which uses normal LED bulbs not requiring any special tools or gymnastics to replace when they burn out 10 years from now. Replacing a light fixture is pretty easy - I've done it. There are lots of how-to videos online - it's not rocket science, and it doesn't require an electrician. (Just turn off the breaker before you start - you'll need a light source from another room/on another breaker, unless you have good daylight in there.)

  • 8 years ago

    Well, can't say for sure - but it looks like something fits in the slots in the ring (why else would they be there?) - which part actually turns, I don't know - your tool doesn't look like it would grab anything on Kathleen's light, other than the ring. If the ring turns until it lines up with something on the bulb cover, allowing it to then drop out, then I could understand how it worked... ;)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The tool I pictured fits a kitchen light. Unsure of how to remove your bath bulb.

  • 8 years ago

    Paddy's right, and I think David's tool should definitely do the job. I was able to finally remove the cover by unscrewing the outer ring, which held the outer glass. Once the outer glass is removed, I could finally access the bulb-cover's screws. It was extremely painful to remove the ring just using simple long-nose pliers, and without the proper tool David earlier shared. David, I see your pictures are gone. Maybe if you can add them back to help others when someone else comes across this painful job. Thanks much for the help and pics!! Now I have light in my bathroom again!

  • 8 years ago

    I have the same fixtures. They are Minka model 5995-84. It is such a pain to replace these light bulbs that i ended up replacing 3 out of 4 in my house. there is a special tool that is needed to remove an outer metal ring, which holds to glass cover in place.

  • 7 years ago

    Kathleen,

    did you ever figure out how to get to those bulbs? I have the same fixtures and now needing to change out the bulbs too...

  • 5 years ago

    What is the tool that was recommended by David? did you figure out the solution? I have the same issue with my fixture but can’t seem to find the most useful response cdom David in this chain?

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    In looking at the Minka instructions, it looks like you have to take the outermost shade off by using a special wrench tool - which somehow unscrews a ring that is attaching the outer shade. Once the outer shade is off, there are two screws, one on each side of the glass cover - with the outer shade off, you have access to unscrew the two screws. Then you replace the bulb. Not sure where to get the wrench tool - I'm hoping the hardware store. I'm no expert on this and haven't done this myself yet so best to talk to an expert; here is a link to the Minka instructions in case it helps. https://s1.img-b.com/build.com/mediabase/specifications/minka_lavery/614263/5994_84install.pdf.

  • 5 years ago

    I must have a different model fixture. After a lot of effort trying to figure this out, the glass cover ended up screwing off. When I screwed it off, I saw that at the end of the glass cover was a ring that was attached to the glass cover with 2 screws. The ring allowed the glass cover to screw off. I had to be careful to hold the rest of the fixture so the turning didn't create any other problems. Maybe the lesson of the day is to figure out what fixture model you have and get the right directions for your model.

  • 4 years ago

    I have one of these light fixtures and it is a total pain to replace the bulbs. The main problem is that the cylindrical nut that holds the shade in place is made out of ALUMINUM, which easily binds with the steel threads when it is inserted making it very difficult to turn. It is truly terrible engineering. In any case, you can use a tool (spanner wrench) like this to remove the nut but if the threads are binding, it'll be hard work.