Software
Houzz Logo Print
maackia

Misnomer?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

This is Juniperus scopulorum 'Snow Flurries'. It's either inaccurate (unless it really does snow gold) or I've got the wrong plant.

Comments (28)

  • 9 years ago

    white tissue can yellow in winter ...


    have you noticed white during spring bud out???


    ken

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Shown and described as white although a few other web pictures show some yellowness. If yours was a nearly pure white earlier it has undergone quite a seasonal change.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It stays gold year round. Is there a gold tipped J. s.?

  • 9 years ago

    are you sure it is not a chinensis? could be j. chinensis torulosa variegata, a.k.a. kaizuka variegata. A stunning plant.

  • 9 years ago

    I'm not sure what I've got, and it could very well be J. chinensis. The tag below is the only information I've got on it. I went onto OPN's website, but they don't have it listed in their available plants.

    p.s. It was an impulse buy. :(

  • 9 years ago

    Well it's lovely nonetheless.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It looks generally like a J. scopulorum, as far as can be seen in your picture. And it looks like other pictures of that cultivar, except for being yellower.

  • 9 years ago

    The cold snap has broken and we've got brilliant sunshine -- Yeah!

    Here are a few close-ups.



  • 9 years ago

    About 20 some years ago I bought a Juniper chinensis 'Torolusa Variegata' in the belief that it would be a variegated twisted form of torulosa. Not so. It has grown straight. It has no yellow, just white variegation.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Proportion of awl-shaped leaves shown in last picture typical for J. chinensis forms. Subject of thread looks enough like other pictures of cultivar in these closer views that it at least part of the time actually being more yellow than described seems like it could be the answer. But since nobody has popped up here to provide confirmation you are left with looking for that elsewhere. If I were working on this I would include looking for other labeled examples elsewhere - preferably from different sources and times than the material you bought - to see if these were the same or different. Maybe the original introduction even sported yellower foliage that got propagated and dispersed as the same material, by mistake.

    maackia thanked Embothrium
  • 9 years ago

    Maackia, your specimen sure is very bright and beautiful !

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you, Twros. This juniper was planted in 2014 to help hide an LP tank, which was sited along the south end of the house. The other conifers you see were laid out along with the juniper to provide a partial screen of the tank, yet allow access for filling, maintenance, etc. In true Maackia fashion, I then decided to move the tank this past spring, which now makes the planting look odd.

    Why move the tank? Today is my 60th B-day, and the plan is to have a greenhouse addition off the south end of house, which is open and very sunny. My spouse, who is already retired, agrees that if we're going to spend the rest of our lives in Wisconsin, we need a means to keep gardening through the seasons. We'll see if this pans out. I sure hope so.

    BTW, did anyone think the info on the OPN tag was lacking? It doesn't give a botanical name, which I'm thinking could indicate the grower didn't know exactly what they've got.

  • 9 years ago

    OPN is a very well respected west cost grower - I'm sure they knew what they had :-) They just had it in very limited quantities and no longer have it available at all so perhaps didn't go to much expense printing tags. Some wholesalers and many retailers only tag with a common name...........as confusing as that can be.

    btw, if you look a lot of images of this plant, a good many DO show some very creamy to almost yellow variegation and coloring can be affected by both siting and weather temps.

    And a very happy birthday to you!!

    maackia thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes, in my first post I said

    Shown and described as white although a few other web pictures show some yellowness

  • 9 years ago

    HB maackia!

    Speaking of green houses, they can get quite warm (read hot) during sunny winter days so think about a thermostatic fan to pipe excess heat into your duct work, saves on the heating bill. :)

    Nice specimen you have there.

  • 9 years ago

    It was found as a sport on 'Moonglow' and was white. I don't see any blue foliage and there should not be any yellow. It is not Juniperus scopulorum 'Snow Flurries' based upon your photos.

  • 9 years ago

    Well there you go :-) Coming from the man who introduced this plant in the first place, I would not presume to argue!! If HE says it's not, it's not!

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Except base color of plant asked about is blue in the above close-ups and "white" parts of plant in last photo posted have the same yellow tinge as has been seen in some other photos on-line. So the question remains is the 'Snow Flurries' absolutely never as yellow as the one asked about here or does this behavior actually fall within its range of variation. At the outset specimen in question appears too yellow yet it was sold as being 'Snow Flurries'.

    If O.P.N. has in fact dropped this item maybe this unexpected yellowness of their stock is why. Not that growers don't have other reasons why their selections change.

  • 9 years ago

    OK, I'll move forward with the understanding that I do not have J. s. 'Snow Flurries'. Thank you, Bob, for helping me sort it out. I still don't know what I have, but at least I know what I don't have.

  • 9 years ago

    I do know that what you have there is one heck of an attractive specimen ! :)

    Maackia, as a kid, I always had felt just a bit cheated when receiving those combined two in one birthday / xmas gifts, two pairs of socks instead of one, lol.

  • 9 years ago

    Twros, you too? For a kid, it's about the worst possible time to have a birthday.

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, was "suppose" to be born on xmas day, though doc told mom that she'd better hurry it up cause he didn't want to be working that day, lol.

  • 9 years ago

    Actually, the yellow is attractive. Since scopulorum has a short usable lifespan in the Northwest due to our wet winters, it might have been dropped by OPN for that reason. It also does not do well outside of its native range. Too much moisture or humidity and blight can easily cause problems with scopulorum.

    maackia thanked Robert Fincham
  • 9 years ago

    This discussion reminds me of the chow-chow puppy that had a tiny pink dot on its otherwise purple tongue and hence did not get its purebred registration papers. It was still a chow-chow puppy in all other respects.

  • 9 years ago

    Another option would be be to contact the nursery you bought it from. Maybe they know more information about the plant.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I like this Juniper. I also can't help but notice that it is referred to as yellow by everyone but me -- but it is a nice rich yellow! I certainly hope it prospers here. Time will tell.

    Actually, this is more of a curiosity for me than anything, and if it wasn't the dead of winter I doubt many of us would give it a second glance. In any case, it is an enjoyable winter pastime to discuss such things. I'm just grateful there are others out there willing to share their opinions and knowledge.

    Stuart, good idea. I get to this nursery once or twice a year and I'll definitely mention this plant.

  • 9 years ago

    "Actually, this is more of a curiosity for me than anything, and if it wasn't the dead of winter I doubt many of us would give it a second glance".

    Well, it really catches my eye and I'd eagerly snap up a couple of them if they were available and I'd plant a specimen near the front window to enjoy during the winter months!