Thank you! How does Persil do with respect to maintaining fabrics and colors?

laliac, you have entered the "laundry zone". Once you begin reading, you will no longer be satisfied with one detergent. The properties of laundry detergents are matched to what you want to accomplish.

What do you mean by Persil? :-))

The ones from Germany or US and what formula? :-))

To answer your question, I used to use the 2 in 1 only and noticed a big difference in getting cooking oil spatters out over Tide that I had used previously. Now after reading all about optical brightners, enzymes and a host of other chemicals I have added

Perwoll for blacks

Cheer powder"stay colorful"

german Persil color gel

Persil pro clean power pearls for whites

Stpp

Then I think Mama was talking about Grab green "vetiver" and it reminded me of an old fashioned perfume shop that is in New Orleans so I had to try that and then the "water lily" in the Grab Green.

If I were going minimalist, I would have Persil 2 in 1 and the Cheer + stpp. I might sub the pearls for the 2in1 but my experience is with the 2 in 1.

The question you ask is similar to asking how India compares to Sweden.

I've used both. Around here, I'm more of a minimalist. I depend on my detergents, don't care for additives, and use fabric softener (Ecover) only for my bath towels. My front loader does excellent rinsing and my approach to fabric care is to use just enough detergent and have it well rinsed. Most of my laundry is not heavily soiled, however.

Laundress is fine if you have very hard water and want minimal/delicate cleaning power or it's just being used for delicates. It is highly concentrated and presented severe sudsing issues with my front loader. Expect it's more functional in a top loader.

Persil makes several formulas both powdered and liquid. Their liquids are high quality, muscular laundry detergents that will handle the dirtiest clothes and remove stains with hot water washes.

I personally use Persil perls as my mainstay detergent for whites, dishtowels, cleaning cloths and other tough jobs. It has some oxygen bleach (the little blue flecks).

Currently I have the German Persil color liquid for tough jobs. Vaska and Grab Green tabs are more gentle but effective for general laundry.

I do at least one black load a week with Perwoll for blacks and use the liquid Perwoll sport, which I like a lot, for all the workout and elasticized clothes.

Le Blanc liquid is used on my bed linens.

Truth be told, I didn't think much of the Laundress detergent. The fragrance wasn't great, the concentration and sudsing were a big problem, and I didn't find a high quality/value ratio. Best I can say is that it seemed to leave laundry feeling soft. I used the whole bottle and my opinion never changed.

Thank you both for your laundry detergent expertise! I am curious about using Grab Green. Did you have high sudsing issues with Grab Green? Does the American Persil make a lot of suds? On a side-note, I have found that BioKleen makes a lot of suds. i do like to use brands that don't test on animals and are more on the environmentally friendly side. I am looking for another everyday detergent. I don't get my clothes very dirty at all. Thank you!

I have a whole house water softener so I need to be careful with my dosing and I rarely use more than a tablespoon of detergent. In hot water that gives me just enough suds. I can use a Grab Green pod with a medium load and it's just fine. The general consensus on it here is positive. I'm moving towards GG for my towels and light colored things.

Enduring can provide detailed and expert comment on American Persil perls. mamapinky likes it as do many others. Hope they and others will chime in. I'm still using up a box of German Persil. If I overdose it can get sudsy in hot washes but otherwise no.

Good morning,

I have moderately hard water at 6-7 grains hardness, according to my municiple water plant that supplies my rural water.

Wikipedia in their posting about water hardness:

• soft: 0-3.5 grains per gallon (gpg),
• moderate: 3.5-7.0 gpg,
• hard: 7.0-10.5 gpg, and
• very hard: over 10.5 gpg

Persil Pearls North American powder does not over suds in my moderate water. I love it. I love the smell. I have really dirty, greasy, smelly farm clothing to wash that my DH generates daily. We have machinery that he works on, livestock that he cares for, and fields that he works. These clothes all get washed in Persil Pearls powder. I have tried the Persil liquid, but I don't like the smell. And to be honest, I don't know if it worked as good as the powder, but its been over a year that I used the 2in1 liquid, and it is supposed to be such a good worker. I have exceptionally difficult loads. I don't worry about if there will be fading on his jeans or shirts. I just want them clean. I also use the Persil Pearls on my towels that are all white. Some of these towels are hand towels that DH uses to wash his hands. Not all the grime gets off with the hand soap, so ends up being wiped off onto the towels. These towels are as white as they were new, 3 years ago. I do wash these clothes and towels in 140f temps.

Liquids for Darks and Blacks are used on my office clothes. These products are made by several companies. I am finishing up with Miele brand, for blacks. I just got a German Persil liquid for blacks from Amazon after Larsi posted his cache of new products last month. I will use these products on poly slacks and tops on 104f temp. Also on jeans, my washer recommends liquids for the denim cycle. These clothes get worn a lot and are nearly new looking after 3 years with my Miele washer.

Powder for Colors include German Persil, Miele for colors, and Cheer. I use these powders on any colored clothing when I don't use the liquid for blacks. I have a new German Persil liquid for colors that I haven't used yet but looking forward to using.

Wools & Silks are washed with my Miele liquid product for wool and silks. I believe I could use any liquid without whiteners, brighteners, or enzymes, such as the Purex without enzymes, but I haven't tried it.

Le Blanc for LInens is what I use on my sheets and I love it. The smell in the bottle is strong, but the sheets smell wonderful to me when finished. Rococogurl gave me the lead for this product.

Down Wash I use for my down comforters and pillows is my Miele. I am almost out so I bought Le Blanc down wash, but haven't used it yet. Its not something you need a lot of. The Purex without enzymes, brighteners, and whiteners is supposedly appropriate for down.

Vaska Tabs and Grab Green pods. I am happy with these products that I use with my office clothes unless they are black. I would use the tabs and pods on bath towels if my load doesn't have the dirty hand towels in it. I'd also use these on sheets. Nether has optical brighteners. They both have oxygen bleach. The GG has enzymes, but Vaska tabs does not.

Purex liquid without enzymes, brighteners, or whiteners, I use for delicate fabrics.

STPP, I use this anytime I'm using powder detergent. Sometimes I will stick it in the drum, when I'm using liquids and I am not using a prewash cycle.

Otherwise do what @wekick advises for very simple laundry program,

"If I were going minimalist, I would have Persil 2 in 1 and the Cheer +
stpp. I might sub the pearls for the 2in1 but my experience is with the
2 in 1."

As I noted above I didn't like the 2in1 liquid as well as the Pearls, I think it was the smell. So I'd go with the Pearls.

Here is an example of the dirty and clean towels. It's probably 2-3 days of grime. DH doesn't always get them changed out daily even though they are right next to his towel bar :/