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Kitchen sink is off centered

9 years ago

Granite counter-top was installed yesterday. We realized while they were there that the sink was off centered from the base cabinet it's in. They must have screwed up the template somehow by 1/2". It doesn't help that the window is also off center making it appear worse. Should we have them install a new counter-top or just make do with what we have? We stuck the faucet in there just to see if it made it look better. The window still needs to be framed and a dishwasher will go alongside the base cabinet
to the right. Any help would be appreciated.



Comments (36)

  • 9 years ago

    I would be so upset since it is obvious you are renovating and no doubt soending a lot of $. Are you going to hang curtains? If so it probably won't be noticeable but if it were me it would drive me crazy just knowing that it should be perfect

    klguerin008 thanked Dale Hadley
  • 9 years ago

    What an annoyance. Deliberately off-center doesn't bother me however this really does look like a mistake. I'm a make-do type and I hate waste but I would want this re-done. So sorry.

    klguerin008 thanked miss lindsey (She/Her)
  • 9 years ago

    I wasn't going to hang curtains just because the window is so close to the cabinets. I wanted to just do some sort of cordless shade. Thank you for the help.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Yes I would say the template was the problem here. It was either made wrong on site or it moved at the factory where it was built. You do have the right to go back to them and have it re done, If you haven't paid them yet you will have a stronger case for them to change it out. It does look a little odd but the look of them is very nice.

    Ken


    klguerin008 thanked Mountain MT Homes LLC
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Everything in our house is like this. Nothing lines up, is centered or even. We decided it doesn't matter.

    klguerin008 thanked User
  • 9 years ago

    Fay thank you for making me laugh. Our house is the same way. So maybe I just deal with it and see if I can get some money back.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The sink goes in before the counters are installed. The installers aren’t the ones who made the error. It has nothing to do with the template. Why did the plumber not notice when he installed the sink that it was off center?

    Read this houzz article:

    https://www.houzz.com/magazine/contractor-tips-countertop-installation-from-start-to-finish-stsetivw-vs~1645403

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    It does seem like a mistake, I dont think it looks terrible but, if it were me it would drive me crazy to look at it everyday.

    Are you working with a general contractor or did you hire separate pros yourself? did you approve a layout prior? Are the cabinets also new? When were the measurements taken?

    I ask because there might be a reason why that needed to be done, although not very likely. Of course if that were the case they should have brought that up to your attention prior to installation in order for you to make an informed decision, but many times this will happen if you purchase the slab yourself.

    In any case, if it bothers you, you should definitely bring it up as you are paying for it and it should be done correctly.

    klguerin008 thanked Trinity Builders & Design, Inc.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Our counter top company installed our sink while installing counter. The plumber had nothing to do with it.

    Ken


    klguerin008 thanked Mountain MT Homes LLC
  • 9 years ago

    Your sink is centered with the cabinet below.

    I really don't think it will be that noticeable when the window is trimmed out.

    Set a vase of flowers on the left side of the sink.

    klguerin008 thanked leelee
  • 9 years ago

    Your granite is lovely. What is your backsplash?

  • 9 years ago

    Leelee, is that cambria berwyn quartz counter? I picked berwyn for my new kitchen & it looks close to what you have

  • 9 years ago

  • 9 years ago

    since the window is off center with it anyway, i'd just take some rebate if possible. its easier to do asymmetry with a plant, nice lotion bottle, whatever, than it is to have symmetry.

    klguerin008 thanked Judy Mishkin
  • 9 years ago

    Ok now I see it, but once it is all put together I don't think anyone else will notice. Like nnigrt said, I'd ask for a rebate.

    klguerin008 thanked suedonim75
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    This wouldn't have been the plumber issue, with certain counter top materials, the seams must be at certain location, although that does not seem to be the issue in the photos.

    I have seen circumstances also in which the cabinet shop makes a small mistake and the counter top fabricator makes another small mistake and when it comes together those minor issues becomes a big problem for the client.

    As mentioned above, I dont think it looks that bad but if it bother you, at least bring it up to the contractor and see what his options are.

    klguerin008 thanked Trinity Builders & Design, Inc.
  • 9 years ago


    I'm using Imperial Grey Bevel Gloss Ceramic Wall Tile - 3X6


  • 9 years ago

    @JudyG Designs What are you smoking? With undermount sinks, the templaters usually take the sink with them (or at least the paper template that came with it), and then bring both back together, so nothing is hooked up before that counter is in place. The error was 100% templaters.

    This kind of thing makes me crazy. I'd ask for some money back, but it seems like a waste of time and nice stone to have them remake it. The kind of thing you'll stop seeing after a week or two.

    klguerin008 thanked acm
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This might be a easy fix as usually the faucet base is wider then the hole by a good margin.

    There is a lot that can be done to fix this such as elongating the hole or patching and re drilling hole. If it is off 1/2" that means they need to go over 1/4" to center correct? I would allow them a chance to make right.

    Some faucets even come with an escutcheon plate that would further hide an elongated hole.

  • 9 years ago

    I'd live with it and see if you can get a discount or some money back for the error.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Am I mistaken to think that the problem started with the cabinet not being centered with the window and then just escalated from there? Looks like a cabinet maker issue.

    You can't center the sink if the cabinet below isn't centered.

  • 9 years ago
    It looks like the sink is centered within the cabinet but the cabinet is not centered on the window. I honestly wouldn't have thought anything of it. Once you have other stuff on your countertops, flowers, dish soap, whatever it will be even less noticeable. If it bothers you, you could probably trick the eye with curtains or something
  • 9 years ago
    I agree the problem started with the cabinet not being centre under the window.
  • 9 years ago

    Love your granite!!!! Honestly, it took me a while to see what you were talking about. Once you have a window treatment and things on your counter, you will feel better :)

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    If you'd accept a bit of a positive reveal on your sink flange, I'd have that sink centered in the cabinet in less than three hours without removing the tops. Easily.

    I prefer a positive reveal anyway; no crud ledge.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Set a framing square on your top with the "L" of the square running parallel with and between your cabinet doors. Place masking tape on the counter where the square edge lands. Line the square up with each side of the cut out and mark the top with tape again. Measure between the tapes to ascertain the sink position. This is the way to tell if the sink is centered or not.

    Were I your fabricator and got this callback, this is what I would do. If the sink were centered (+- 1/8" or so), you'd owe me a trip charge.

  • 9 years ago
    I personally think no one will notice...I am not so sure I even do...I think a few things might be giving sort of an optical illusion...possibly making it seems worse to you than it is...the can sitting I window is to the left of faucet...the faucet handle is on right...open hole where dishwasher goes...and the plastic on cabinets particularly on the left is sticking out more. Perhaps your contractor can offer some suggestions to make it look visually right.
    We had 2 closets installed with window between...one side was just a tad smaller...so to have all the trim around the doors be the same they took the doors completely apart and trimmed down the panels and glued them all back together...I personally have no dead which panel they trimmed down of the bifold doors...
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    ".I think a few things might be giving sort of an optical illusion...possibly making it seems worse to you than it is..."


    That's why you measure. Math can't lie.

  • 9 years ago

    @Joseph Corlett We did measure as well as the installers. They did admit it was 1/2" off center. It's up to us if we want to live with it or redo it. Thank you.

  • 9 years ago

    I really think that after you are settled in you will never notice it!

    klguerin008 thanked Dale Hadley
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    This is something that one hopes would never happen, but it is what it is. My fear would be that with the obvious pattern of the stone, the cure (changing only part of the countertop and messing up the pattern match) might be worse than the disease. I think I would live with it.

  • 9 years ago
    We had a very similar situation in our last house. We asked for money back because it seemed like such a hassle and waste to have everything redone. I thought it would bug me, but it honestly never did.
    klguerin008 thanked kmcnarney
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I missed the sink center in my own condo by an inch many years ago, although the bowl was a 70/30 which helped throw your eye off. The buyer never noticed, but more importantly, my wife never said a thing.

  • 8 years ago

    A mini set of shelves on the right side of the cabinet would even out the space and perhaps make the window not so "off center" looking. I'm a bit ocd and have had my own issues with kitchen renovation lately. I would never get to the stage that I'd be ignoring this... I'd be continually trying to move the window in my mind. So putting a valance from cabinet to cabinet and then a set of narrow set of knickknack shelves on the right would be what I'd do, or put a draped scarf valance there to hide both edges of the window. That would work for me, even with ocd. Redoing would be a risk.

  • 8 years ago
    Old post...3/17