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Wolf/Subzero vs. Miele Package

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Please help me decide! I need to buy a 36" fridge, 36" gas range, range hood, 24" steam oven. and dishwasher.

I can either buy a combo of all Wolf/Subzero and get a cheap dishwasher (I don't use or care about D/W) OR

Get all of the above Miele.

The price difference with the current rebates that Miele is running will be about 2K+ less than the Wolf/Subzero combo. Normally, I'd think that's a no-brainer but I've been reading about reliability issues with Miele. Can someone help me pick?

Comments (15)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I won't recommend a package, I think both are good, but I can tell you that I do have some Miele appliances that I love. I preferred the Miele to the Sub-Zero fridge when I was looking, but you may prefer the layout of the Sub-Zero better. I am very happy with my Miele.

    I'm assuming that you want a combi steam oven. Do you want a plumbed in version? Or a broiler in the combi? I don't know if Wolf offers those options, so that may be a deciding factor. I bought the Gaggenau.

    Miele DW are generally loved on these forums.

    A bigger question may be what is the service like in your area? I had a small issue with my DW shortly after it was installed, and the Miele service was great.... they were out within a couple days.

  • 9 years ago

    I live in Long Island, NY which has Miele service centers nearby.

    I'm doing the package to best take advantage of the current rebates. $1000 for buying Wolf/Subzero and 10% for Miele. The 10% is more substantial when you buy more items from Miele.

  • 9 years ago

    Miele.

  • 9 years ago

    dan1888, I would love if you could elaborate :)

  • 9 years ago

    I don't know enough about Miele ranges, but for the other appliances, I'd go with Miele over Wolf/SZ. I love my Miele fridge, chose it over the SZ. I also have a Miele speed oven (love, and people love their steam ovens on GW) and one of their wine fridges. And we are going to buy a Miele DW today as our current one (a Kenmore Elite, which has been great for over a decade) has been in decline, and earlier this week up and stopped working :-(

  • 9 years ago

    does anyone know if Miele will have another rebate or incentive when the 10% rebate promotion is over at the end of this month?

  • 9 years ago

    They generally only do promotions twice a year or so

  • 8 years ago
    Based on all of these reviews for Miele, I’ve just purchased an entire kitchen layout stocked with Miele Appliances.

    I researched every brand for over a year, (well, maybe more like 9 or 10 months), but I couldn’t find anything terrible about either SZ, or Miele.

    Mostly personal preference dictated which brand others chose. For me, when I kept reading about the layout of Miele over SZ, refrigerators, and the differences in the Wolf and Miele induction ranges. I live outside of city lines, so we aren’t able to have a gas range, and I didn’t want to have to plumb a line, so we could use propane. We’re doing enough already as it is! Multiply reviewers reiterated how well made the Miele appeared over SZ, mostly they were referencing the interior esthetics (which was super surprising to me, as SZ are made like a tank). However, it became clear to me which brand would be the better option for me, and my family.

    I have not received my appliances yet, so I’ll update this comment, about how they arrive, how they fit in the spaces we’re preparing for them, and how much installation costs will be for the dishwasher, since the warranty states you must have a certified Miele tech install the dishwasher, for the warranty to be valid. This may be the only downside as of now, to purchasing this brand, as we do not have a Miele service center here, (yet). I’m going to write Miele about this, and try to convince them to please open one, as we live just outside Nashville, TN, and if anyone is keeping up with the fastest growing metropolitan areas in the country, then you know it’s just a matter of time until Miele hopefully will recognize that we need them! There are a lot of high end homes being built in the area, (about 98% are high-end, starting at around $1 million plus, which I believe is considered high-end)? And I’m pretty sure when you invest that much in a new home, you would also want high-end appliances. Just a guess, but I know that’s what I would want, if it were me.

    Anyway, I am so grateful to every site I could find, that gave ratings, opinions, ran tests, took surveys, and to all the consumers who took the time to write reviews, (good and bad) about both of these brands. Yale Appliance in the Eastern part of the US, was SUPER helpful with all of their Most helpful videos, and even though they don’t service my area, when I called them to inquire about different brands, they didn’t care that I wasn’t going to be one of their customers, they answered every question I asked, and never acted as if they had to hurry to get off the phone, due to another actual paying client they needed to help.
    That is impressive in this day and age.
    If anyone wants to see what I’m talking about, then google ‘Yale Appliance’, and you’ll see what I mean!

    Of course, I couldn’t leave out my sales Rep. Hensley from Designer Appliance, who really earned his income the day he answered the phone to help me. He was so knowledgeable about each and every appliance line they sell, and never tried to steer me to the most expensive brand, or line.

    My appliances came to just under the $20,000 mark after all was said and done, but he gave me info. about all other brands he had heard good things about. Some were Italian, some were built in other countries, which I can’t remember off hand, and if I had chosen models in any of those lines, my have total expenditure would have been around $8,000. So you see, I felt very comfortable when after speaking with him, and doing more research, I finally decided on our Miele Appliances. By the way, Designer Appliance is an on-line company, which also has retail centers in PA, and I believe a few other
    areas in that vicinity, and if you check them out, you’ll see some very nice advantages (fiscally speaking) about ordering appliances from them.

    So, I’m putting my trust and faith in Designer Appliances, and Miele, and have decided that they WILL, they MUST stand behind, and beside their products, their promises, their brand, their word, where a lot of other brands are falling short. If not, then I’ll be back to write another long essay!!

    I say this, because I only started shopping for a new appliance’s after my (three year old Maytag appliances)
    were either deemed defective, (which I was compensated for with my extended warranty), or were going to cost as much to fix, as purchasing another like product, as the models I currently own from them, that went on the fritz. It was uncanny, that within the three years I’ve owned these said appliances, the first to go, was the ice maker in the fridge, followed by the dishwasher, followed by the stove, which just happened to go out on Thanksgiving day this year, 2017. Good thing I had started looking for replacement options when our ice maker quit over a year ago. If I had waited for the stove to quit, I’d probably have chosen in haste, and made another bad decision.

    I’m not saying that all Maytag appliances will do the same, as I’m sure there are many that keep on going for decades, but I was certainly discouraged, and very disappointed that the company wasn’t interested to hear about my experience with this set of their appliances. Maybe the entire set were just lemons, which happens!

    If this had been my company, I would have purchased the set back from the consumer, so I could research and find out why every model in the set, had gone out systematically, one by one, like clockwork!

    I wouldn’t want that same scenario to happen to anyone else, because that would be my brand on the line, and
    when a set like this stops working one by one within months of each other, there’s a quality issue. I’d want to know what that issue was, and why it occurred! However, that’s just me.

    Thanks for letting me comment. Like I said, I’ll be back to inform anyone who is interested, about my experience with Miele going forward. Please keep us in your thoughts, as I’m going to go live in a tiny house, if I have another bad, expensive experience with an appliance brand. After all, can hardly beat a campfire for perfectly roasted hotdogs and marshmallows, not to mention heating water for washing clothes and dishes! Heck, I’m doing everything by hand now anyway, so what’s the difference?

    Happy Holidays to all! May you be very blessed in 2018, and beyond!!
  • 8 years ago

    I can recommend Designer for Miele purchases.

  • 8 years ago

    We elected to go with the a Subzero because they have a french door and we needed a smaller door swing. The interior quality and layout of the Subzero was on par with the Miele but we preferred the larger deli drawer. I don't think you can go wrong with either brand.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi, Could you please tell me based on your personal experience which gas range(36")is better-Wolf or Miele? Thanks!

  • 5 years ago

    We got the Miele because of the aesthetic. I’m sure they work very similarly.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you for your response! Did you have any technical problems since you started using it? Noise from the oven fans? Burners' ignition system? Thank you!

  • 5 years ago

    The igniters sometimes click for too long before igniting the flame.