I just got a quote from one company for the double casement window, was told at least $4,500. Seems a lot considering I know the same window only from Home Depot cost about $1,000. Is install for windows more than 4 times the cost of the window?

These comments surprise me. I have a garden window and its my favorite part of kitchen. Everyone loves it. 2 years and no leaks so far.

Mine is finally in. Not done yet, but I love it. It really has made my kitchen feel bigger

sorry, havent been on in a while. My window is 57"

it's beautiful Amy. My window frame is 54" wide and I was told I can't do a bay. But now that I decided to put glass shelves, it's why I decided to do a small 12-15" deep box bay instead. Do you remember what it cost to have your window installed?

Sue, same question, do you remember the cost of your window and install? I'm waiting to hear back from a 2nd company to get an idea of what I was told by the 1st, if their price is higher or lower.

I would avoid garden windows - very outdated.

Diyher, mine is an Andersen bay. I think it was between 4-5 k. Can't remember exactly because it was mixed in with everything else. I thought it was ridiculously expensive, but it is really looking great and it's not even trimmed out yet. My window was 54 or 57,can't remember exactly.

thank you Sue. Your opening has 3, where mine only has 2. I know both Anderson casement windows together cost about $1,000 and that was with the more expensive screening. I can't figure out why the cost of installing those 2 windows and just add a 12" deep framed before installing the actual windows with no sill shelf, because that was actually going to be added by our stone fabricator, cost another $4,000. If there was any woodwork outside to be painted around that window frame, that was an extra cost plus $95/hour to do it. Our whole house has Anderson windows from 1994, so hoping we don't have to replace more than 5 total of the 30 windows we have in the whole house.

mabey change window to a 3x3 or 4x3

I LOVE my garden window. It expands the feel of the size of my kitchen tremendously. It is NOT a pain to clean. It DOES NOT leak (even after seven years). It faces west and can become warm in summer months--not boiling. It is NOT freezing in the winter. I love the sunshine for my indoor flowering or seed starting plants. The only problem we have is on the exterior. It's unfortunately above a spigot. I've stood up and bumped my head a couple of times. A bay window would remedy that. We had great installers and yes--we may have to caulk at some point--but the pros 100% out weighed the cons for us.

A friend just had to have a garden window... It leaks. Gets condensation. Impossible to clean inside and out. Needs a stepstool and ladder to clean the window and then has to lean over the sink. The plants attracted all sorts of living creatures... Ants, gnats and other creepy crawlies IN THE KITCHEN?? She now keeps her green glass objects collection in it and swears like a trooper every time she has to dust it. Please do yourself a favor and think if another solution.

zoey

thanks Megnmike. Actually I can see where it would be hard to clean when a garden window is over a sink. That means we would have to stand on the counter. Heading towards our mid 60's, climbing counters is no longer an option. The garden windows I saw pictures of through brochures at contracting companies were deeper than what I want to build as a box bay.

I'm no longer getting a garden window, but want to do a small box bay '54" wide by no more than 12" deep total. Not so sure about the creepy crawlies :) I have a 2 tier stand in my 4x8 bump out area in my kitchen and have no problem with bugs. Only time we have problems is from those darn stink bugs that find their way screens and just by opening the door at the wrong time.

Ours was mixed in, but i think it was $870 to install. its on the 2nd floor and they matched the roof shingles. the actual window was 2678.00. I do hate cleaning it but wouldnt give it up for all the tea in China.

Small bay sounds lovely. Maybe even less expensive, eh? Good luck with it. Goid choice. Zoey

I had one over my sink. Pain in the rear to clean and it was always hot so I couldn't even grow cacti! I might replace your window with a simple vinyl one.

I really lke my new bay. It was a lot more expensive than a garden window, but I never really considered that as I don't like the look. On mine, the 2 sides open, the middle piece doesn't. I have figured out that I could clean the sides from the outside with the window open, which might be easier. The middle pane is going to be a little bit of a chore, but I hope to keep it clean so I don't have to do it too often

The bump out we have in our kitchen, the center window is fixed glass, the 2 windows on either side of it are casements and the window on that left wall of the bump out is also a casement. The right wall is a door to the garden.

thanks Robert :) but no vinyl windows for me :) My Mom had vinyl years ago and it always sweated. The small 3 person office I'm in now has them, and they just don't close right, although they are double hung and not casements. I'm going with Anderson wood windows to match the rest of the house.

I used Anderson wood windows in a Craftsman that I remodeled ... double hung and both upper and lower tilted in for cleaning ... loved them !

Yes, I heard the newer ones do tilt. Going to do that with at least 3 of the double hung in our family room. So far the other windows are fine. Goog thing because we have 27 double hungs and 7 casements, 2 sunroof windows

I don't know if you are using grids in the windows or not, but word of caution about the Anderson product. I got the grids that mounted on the interior of the window and found that they were kind of awkward to remove when cleaning (they fell apart!) and the little nylon buttons that held them in the frame we're a pain to deal with. I wish I had paid the extra $$ and ordered the grids mounted between the panes of glass !

I don't know if you are using grids in the windows or not, but word of caution about the Anderson product. I got the grids that mounted on the interior of the window and found that they were kind of awkward to remove when cleaning (they fell apart!) and the little nylon buttons that held them in the frame we're a pain to deal with. I wish I had paid the extra $$ and ordered the grids mounted between the panes of glass !

Every garden window I've ever seen (or had) absolutely fries plants to death. They can't handle the magnification of the sun.

Every garden window I've ever seen (or had) absolutely fries plants to death. They can't handle the magnification of the sun.

I thought the same after I thought about it longer. It's why I'm going with a small box bay

Thanks Robert, I agree about the grills. All the front windows in our house have the plastic grills on the inside. The back of the house all windows have no grills. Not sure what I will do yet with the casement windows I'm looking to do. I don't want to block any full view by using the grids. If I do it at all in just the box bar, I might do the inside grill on the top 1/4 which won't block a view.

Hey! Have you found the Andersen Window design tool yet? I am putting together a window project for my Mother and it is a real help! Andersen Window Design Tool

I didn't know they had this available on-line.

are you doing casements too Robert? I just noticed they listed a French casement, don't remember that option before and trying to figure out what it really is.

https://www.andersenwindows.com/product/casement-windows/

Also, I'm trying to find a window that when opening the casement after taking off the screen, that we can clean both inside and out of the window without going outside on a ladder.

Hi! In the last remodel I did, I had the window over the sink placed at the countertop instead of above the 6" backsplash ... big mistake! It was always dirty and water spotted. I have a feeling that a Bay over your sink might pose a bigger issue in that you'd need to crawl up on the countertop and sit in the sink to clean it ?

Also, you don't have to take the screen off the tilt wash windows unless it's dirty.

I like the Prarie grid in the top window!

Another thought (thinking about my Mom's kitchen window) a double hung might be hard to open and close in that you would have to lean over the sink unless you are tall with long arms! Consider an XO window? They can be made to match the rest of the windows in your house. Just a thought based on experience ?!?

thanks Fred :) I have someone coming next week to give us another quote. also, this person could also help us with some kitchen projects like installing the Conestoga cabinets I put together :) hopefully a decent quote. I'll read what you just posted.

Robert, this is the one I am thinking of selecting if I can get a window that I can clean easier.

If I do, the only window in the house that will have it is the window over the sink.

you are right about double hung over a sink. Not the best idea. The casements are the best for that space.

just caught your 2nd post Fred :) I'm trying to keep up with US political news in between jumping onto Houzz lol. I'm exhausted.

Fred, do you use Snagit? it reminds me of all the edits to screen shots I do with mine :)

No, never heard of it. Just a free screenshot app on my phone and free photo editor.

oh, I've been using Snagit probably since it first came out more than 15 years ago. Would use it to help write documents on how to use software when I was in the BIG pharma companies. https://www.techsmith.com/

I usually just grab the first free program I can find that does what I need. I figure that by the next time I really need something, there are enough upgrades that I would need to get something new anyway if I was chasing the latest and greatest. I did that with 3D design software for a while until it got too big for my state of the art (at the time I bought it), extra fast for "gaming" Dell laptop. I decided that was a vicious circle I wanted to stay away from when possible. So, I quit looking for better software ;D

Only reason I started using it, was I think early 2000's I needed it more than I do now. So I'm still using version 9, think they are up to 15 or higher. :D I still own and shoot with a Nikon D300S. Most photographers would consider that antiquated lol. I still have my 2006 Honda CRV that just turned 100,000 miles last week.

the company that put me in touch with the person who will come on Tuesday about the box bay, mentioned Marvin windows as the one that has the best casements that you can clean the outside from the inside. They showed me the Anderson and how it opens and how you can't really stick your arm through to get to the outside. This looks like a nice way of access. I'm sure it will cost more, but if it makes it much easier to clean the windows every year, I'd love that idea. Here is a video I just found that shows how they work. Advance to about 1:00 to 1:15

I hesitate to put down Marvin windows in general, I think they have a mostly great product offering. But could you explain what you mean about not being able to reach out the Andersen casements to clean them, since they use a specific type of hinge that allows just that? I have pretty big arms, and am usually able to get my arm out quite easily to do whatever is needed.

out of the 4 people I talked to, one told me they had a hinge that allowed access, then another said they don't. Then I went to a window/door/roof place and she showed me the Anderson and the hinge, and showed how I couldn't fit my arm and neither could she. What I also liked about the Marvin window was the roll screen. That would mean I could leave the screen rolled closed over the Winter months knowing I would never have the window open for air and have a nicer view. Even with the current 22yo window we have over the sink, we have to use a ladder, or get up onto the counter to clean the window anyway. So in that respect, it would not be any different.

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Here is what we did with the kitchen window. It used to be 55"W x 45"H Since I decided I wanted two 9"Wx 42H wall cabinets for pull outs on either side of the window. the person we found to do ALL our kitchen work said we would save money and buy a 50"W x 45"H which is a standard size Andersen French Casement window. And, that will allow us to have the 2 9"W er's on the ends of our wall cabinets. This guy is really good and has helped us so much. He just finished the roof today. He made it look just like the roofs on the box bays in our dining room and our family room, just not as deep because we still need to be able to access to open the window. It's the one on the left. And, we were able to use the same roofing material that matches the rest of the house that we happened to have extra of. He capped it all in metal to match the siding color because the window is not as deep as the other 2, adding the corners would only leave maybe 5 inches for rows of siding that really wouldn't show up anyway.

I forgot to post an inside photo with the quartz windowsill and the new Viatera Soprano counters and new cabinets

@diyher I'm in a similar situation - trying to figure out what to do with a pair of double-hung windows where my kitchen sink will eventually be How wide is the middle section where the windows meet? (how much does it obstruct your view?) Any issues, 3 years after installation?

I'd like to say that it is a worth thing to have kitchen garden windows over sink. A garden window will not only give your home character on the inside but also on the outside as well.