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Shoe Moulding

9 years ago
Hello,
I love reading all of the expert advise on these threads and often have very similar questions. I'm in a pickle and need some of that expert advice that is frequently offered.

Problem:
New construction home. Painters got white paint on hardwood floor when they sprayed the baseboards. Instead of trying to remove the paint from the floor, they tried to cover it up using a brown gel stain. When they did that, they got the brown gel stain on the white baseboards and tried to wipe it off, but it is noticeable. It now appears the gaps between the floor and baseboard are larger in places and you can see the gel stain.

Builder wants to install a shoe moulding to cover, but I am unsure if this is the appropriate fix and if it will look finished. Baseboards are 4.5 inches. My main concern is the look around the door frames and in those smaller areas. I think it will look choppy and pieced together. I've attached photos to reference. You might need to zoom in to see the problem.

I have some samples that I've been mulling over, but I am just unsure. If I go with a moulding, it will be painted white to match baseboards rather than stained to match floor. Looking for any and all opinions and advice to guide my decision.

Thank you!

Comments (27)

  • 9 years ago

    Keep it simple! (excuse the silly picture, this was the only good example I could find) You also might want to put furniture against the walls someday, and the large shoe molding can keep things from sitting against the wall correctly. You also don't want it to look like an after thought. With the type of base molding you have right now, a simple Quarter Round will work perfectly, *and probably be more cost effective*.

  • 9 years ago

    Agree... we have the same baseboards such as Carly S posted and quarter round will be most cohesive with your baseboard. Not to mention what you have selected would be much harder to keep clean.

  • 9 years ago
    Thank you! Is it going to look bad sticking out from the door frame? Pretend the piece I have is a quarter round. This is their recommended cut angle for trimming next to the door frames.

    The expense is coming from the builder since it was their mistake, so I'm not worried too much about the cost!

    The other option is removing the baseboards, cleaning the hardwood, respraying the baseboards and reinstalling. That's a big messy project I don't think I want to deal with.
  • 9 years ago

    Again, pretending like this is the Quarter Round, I would do the transition angled away from the door on the side of the molding, not on the top of the molding angled down (if that makes sense). I think once it is all done, it will be a small detail that's not as noticeable as it is right now!

  • 9 years ago

    You wont have that sharp point on the corner that toes love to catch then! It will wear nicer, as well.

  • 9 years ago

    Carly is correct.... you will paint the small edge where it needs to be painted. It is nothing at all like the moulding you have posted when quarter round is used.

  • 9 years ago
    I would just do a quarter round like Carly posted. Those mouldings in your picture would be too large
  • 9 years ago

    Agree with Carly. And while probably not needed in your case (as you likely have uniform mouldings throughout), there's this neat little trick when needing to transition between two different mouldings:

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    I install my base boards and moulding myself. I paint it before I install it. Or I paint the base boards before the flooring is installed if they are on. If you are careful while making the cuts, the paint does not get damaged. It is easier to do a little touch up than paint after installation and get it on the new floor or visa versa.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
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    Use a standard shoe molding. No need to go too fancy as it could distract from your flooring.


    The shoe molding in this picture measures 1/2"x3/4"
    Paint it the color of your baseboards to give a cleaner look verses staining to match your flooring.

  • 9 years ago
    Wacokid, that's how we installed ours too. That seems like the logical way to do it.
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    If your builder is paying have the base boards scribed to the floor

  • 9 years ago
    Thank you for all of the suggestions and advice. I too would have thought the baseboards would have been painted before installed, but my builder didn't always do what seemed obvious and logical. I have really pretty wide planked scraped hardwood floors and I don't want to take anything away from them.
  • 9 years ago

    we primed and painted ours then touched them up after they were installed. A lot easier in my opinion.

  • 9 years ago
    Priming and painting before install is the easy and logical way if you have a single worker or you are DIYing. Builders do not do it that way the trim carpenter installs everything then the paint crew paints it keeps production going. Yes to the simple quarter round toe, but ask for a return not a slice cut. See below, just installed needs to be filled sanded and paint touched up
  • 9 years ago
    I always think shoe mounding looks like it is covering up a mistake which in this case it is. I would have them do this the right way!
  • 9 years ago

    We do must of our own building as my husband is very good at it. Gut and do over.... I find it easier to prime and paint first. It was much easier for me on a 2000 sf first floor as I don't have to be on my knees priming then painting and I'm half blind so have to wear glasses! Just my way, not every body might do it this way and I do not paint as a profession :) I dreaded the second floor, but it's done after putting down all the hardwood it looks just beautiful compared to the old short ugly baseboards. Good luck.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I can't believe people are actually recommending 1/4 round vs a shoe molding??? People are so used to seeing things done wrong that they think it is the correct way over the actual correct shoe molding. 1/4 round is a quick fix end of story. Shoe moldings come in different sizes and profiles.

    What your contractor needs is a simple pencil scribe and a plane to fit the molding properly. The again look above we are so used to shoddy repairs people are recommending them over proper ones.

    You can have your house look like a HD craft project or done correctly. How about some Annie Sloan chalk paint? 1/4 round is for inexperienced homeowners to cover mistakes.

  • 9 years ago

    wannabath.... I'm not so sure that is true. Yet, we are entitled to our opinions.

    If you live in a very old home and very large home and are replacing baseboard to 5 or 6" and your walls are off kilter as are your wood floors then it works very well to use quarter round get around (meander if you will the nuances of the old home) all these problems of a very, very old home. No, we can't take the walls down and rebuild an old home that has so much charm. Shoe moulding and 1/4 round are kissing cousins with a 90 degree angle on the back side. We originally ordered a more decorative, "shoe moulding" yet it wasn't cohesive to the problems given the age of our home.

    On the other hand if your baseboards are short and you use 1/4 round they will look, "fat" so to speak and off balance. It's a preference thing. Not a right or wrong thing.

    Who ever Annie Sloans baseboard Wannabath?

  • 9 years ago
    I think renovating an older home with all its quirks and challenges may one may be more forgiving but this is a new build. I'm not so sure I would be too pleased with the series of missteps that led to me having to accept this solution:(
  • 9 years ago

    I do understand that (did you read response to an unrelated issue) and am in complete agreement with the posting. However, I don't think it is an issue of, "shoe moulding". I think it has taken a turn as it does at times. Janna W should get this done the way she wants it. Trust me on that one! I didn't need to explain my own options and should not have felt I should explain it as it's of no concern yet it is what the situation the brought to the posting when it was posed. It's a new build, yes I know that.... Jenna should get it done with what she wants I agree.... I decorate model homes, I don't do shoe moulding... I have only done what I do in my own home.

    ***Apologize Janna for this going South... Good luck with your project.

  • 9 years ago
    I hope you don't think I was being critical of you Porter! You always give such good advice! I am just surprised to see such a shoddy paint job is all. It seems the contractor wants to do a quick fix and I'm not sure this couldn't be fixed by a better painter! I'm sure he doesn't want to pay for it.
  • 9 years ago
    My husband and I have remodels and renovated numerous homes. When you are paying someone to do a job you expect it to be done right. A little botch here and there is one thing. Some contractors get the cheapest help with no skills to do a job and you get things like your problem. I would make him fix the floor and the baseboards. Then maybe he will stop doing these kinds of things. I like to see them take pride in their work. Some make as much money as they can and pay help very little. Good luck
  • 9 years ago

    Was rather surprised at the paint job ... Orange peel

  • 9 years ago

    I agree with that part lynartist and by no means thought that you personally were being critical .... I agree whole heartedly with what you (most) are saying 100%. This got too far to quarter round vs. shoe moulding.

  • 9 years ago

    I think if you want to address the gaps, then the baseboard should be scribed to the floor. If you want to address the stain on the baseboards then they should sand them (to get rid of the globs and orange peel texture) and then repaint them.

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