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9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

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Fruitnut, you have drawn a longtime lurker from the shadows.
as not to confuse, a list of my current questions requiring info
follows:
First a summary, normal soil ph 6.0, I used Espoma soil acidifier and
plants have been @ 4.5 to 5.0 since planting/application. I use vinegar
to lower pond water to 4.3 for watering, tds of 18. have sulphuric acid,
but haven't had to produce large volumes of water yet, I am sure I
will.
I'm in east texas 8b? south of Tyler.
I planted 2 ea of 4 varieties, premier, powderblue, austin, brightwell.
12-11-16. they were sticks in 2 quart pots. about 2'-0amp; 3'-0,
Each planted in 24" wide x 15" deep holes, replaced 100% dirt with peat
moss, 3 bales for 8 plants, and 10 bags pine bark. about 3" to 4" higher
than ground level for drainage in a raised bed. (I may raise them this
winter another 4")
before spring I stripped all flower buds, there were hundreds.
Currently I give them only 21-0-0 AS (mine weighed 4.7- gram per tsp.) @
1/4 tsp per gal each watering, (about 1+ quart currently every other
day or 2) and have excellent growth 1'-0+ everywhere. I didn't lose a
branch during my learning curve. Some new larger canes are coming from
the crowns now.
my questions are:
a. is pruning a blueberry bush during this fast growth bad? For shaping
purposes.
I understand I want to train it up and open to sun (I probably should
have pruned it down low to keep all new growth up high, but will suffer
the loss when they are pruned this winter.)
b. you indicated on a previous post you used Osmocote 19-6-6 slow
release?
Where is this available? (I believe I am micronutrient deficient due to
being just peat & pine bark in a hole) I want darker green leaves!!
c. the 2 austin from a different vendor don't appear as nice and green
as the other 6 do,
they came with some form of Osmocote, but they couldn't remember the
designation.
my soil ph @ 4.5 / 5, same pond water, but they are appearing chlorotic.
I am satisfied w/soil & water ph, so I figure micronutrients are
the culprit. I am on an iron ore hill.

Oh yeah, I have tried several times in my life to grow Blueberries, these are the first blueberries I haven't killed in less than 45 days. Thanks for all your help to lurkers like me.

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi there:

    Looks to me like you are doing fine. The leaves will darken some as they get older. Don't over do it on lowering the pH. Too low is as bad or worse than too high. And rabbiteye are more tolerant of pH than SHB.

    If you are keeping them moist then more nitrogen is the key to more growth. But at this point I'd say stay patient. Your plants are doing fine. After they are established for a yr you can push harder if needed. If you just keep them growing all summer they're going to be big by most any standard.


    The controlled release acidic fert I once used is no longer made.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for the input Fruitnut!

    but, Is it bad for a blueberry plant to remove growing limbs to force growth to other existing branches? Do they bleed or not heal well? Or do I risk killing the supporting root mass for that particular branch?

    in one of the pics above, you can see a dark patch. I just pulled a branch down to the pine mulch and plopped a handful of peat moss on it to attempt to root then cut for a future plant. I did this several places because so many are hanging so low.

    I feel like I am wasting growth, and should direct to to a more desired scaffold limb. one that is pointing up preferably.

  • 9 years ago

    You can prune blueberries any time without risk of disease. But what you should do with young plants is retain all foliage to the fullest extent possible. Leaves grow roots and increase overall plant size. Then next winter take out the low branches and any others you don't like. The plant will usually respond with strong upright shoots.


    It's a waste of time trying to root the low shoots. You can do that with grapes and figs but not blueberry. Just keep the low shoots if you can for this growing season. If you'd rather not that's OK as well.

  • 9 years ago

    After visiting a u-pick 90 miles from here, I see why these are growing so well.

    they are growing BERRIES, I am growing leaves...

    I can attest to having 12"+ vegetative growth in 30 days.

    do blueberries vegetative states come in several "growth spurts"?

    Or is it full run growth for the season?


    I did remove a few that were flat laying on the ground. unsanitary looking.

    they hampered watering accurately.


    Almost all of these plants have new canes growing, most new canes are 1'-0+,

    one has 3 canes.

    one new cane has outgrown it's parent by 7" as of today, it is 30". all new shoots are very healthy looking. The leaf color comes around after a little sun.

    As it passed the parents height, I see a relatively "unsupported" future fruit bearing branch. I am not sure when it will quit growing around here season wise.

    But I feel it will pass the 5'-0 mark pretty easily.

    Is common to require individual support for these long "lone" canes to prevent

    future collapse by berry weight?