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Bathroom makeover - sconces?

9 years ago
Hi, I'm updating my vanity area (woo hoo!). See the before and then the desired after photos attached. I drew an estimate of the new mirror measurements. What sconces do you think would work well? How and where would you put them?

The less expensive the better (since the mirrors are a bit of a splurge), hoping for something that compliments and doesn't overpower the look.

I will be painting the vanity an almost black color. Not sure which exact color yet..

Also, for some reason there's an overhang that I'm thinking of knocking down. It doesn't seem to be load barring at all... it may have just been the look they were going for in the 70s when the house was built. Any insight on whether or not to rip it out? (I also thought of hiding the light fixture up there but thought it may not provide enough light to do hair/makeup)

Comments (24)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Longer thinner style, metal to coordinate with faucets. These were LED at Lowes for $99 as an example. Moving the lights to the sides of the mirror can provide better lighting on your face, but you need a source on both sides to avoid shadows. Hence the slender design given the tight corners.


    Align the top of fixture to the point that breaks into the design on top to anchor the 5 items into a relationship with each other.

    Keep the soffit, it makes a nicely proportioned frame for the new mirrors. Without the soffit the mirrors won't be as impactful and look lost on a too big wall. Consider a shade darker paint than adjacent walls on the rear surface or a soft accent color of some sort to set the scene for the makeover. An alternate step could include a great accent tile in the niche.


  • 9 years ago
    I would suggest the "light saber" sconces as above too. How deep is the soffit above the mirrors? You could put some 4" cans there for add'l lighting, and keep them on a separate switch from the sconces. Good luck!
  • 9 years ago

    wow! lovely ideas, thank you. !!

    I LOVE the idea to line up the top of the lights with the break in the mirrors. The wall is 60" wide and the mirrors are 20" each which leaves 20" as space between the corners and between the mirrors.

    Are 3 lights necessary? For spacing purposes - If I divide 20"/3 spaces = 6.67" per wall space between the corner and between each mirror -- hoping that leaves enough space for all 3 without feeling too cramped. It looks like the round base of that fixture is about 4.5".

    (Funny, the soffit is actually hollow behind, all the way up to the ceiling - about 4-5 inches thick. I'm a little concerned the top of the mirrors *might* be too tall and go behind - if so then may need to take it out - otherwise will leave it.)

  • 9 years ago
    I think you need 3 sconces. Even if you did 2, the only way to give more room on the sides is to move the mirrors closer together. I didn't get the impression you were moving plumbing too. Would you get narrower mirrors? Or a big single mirror and mount sconces on top of mirror (not above, on top of glass)?
  • 9 years ago

    a few ideas. Is that a medicine cabinet on the right that sticks out? can you remove that and make it open shelving with no door?

    on the left, remove the towel bar. if you need something, go w/a ring.

    can you do a flush mount chandelier for the middle ceiling? (doesn't have to be this one, just an idea)

    I like the bar lights idea

    RH

    but you could also do a double light dead center at the top of the mirror

    RH Bistro light or the industrial one that points down. these would come out far enough to clear the mirrors.
    this also comes in various finishes, clear shades, milk glass, ribbed glass etc.

    for the vanity, BM Advance paint in the blackest black, semi-gloss. get their darkest black and have them add 4 more squirts of black tint. (I did it with mine. the black is gorgeous and much darker than their regular black)

    If you have the room or remove the soffit, you could do lighting like this too. notice the towel ring, decor, and the satin gold hardware. consider doing a great tile backsplash.

  • 9 years ago

    Ah! I think you're right. They may just be a little squeezed in on the sides. It seems, with the spacing of the sinks - the center will be a wider space. Unless I push the mirrors slightly closer together which may then look odd.. Ok, thank you

  • 9 years ago

    Beth, Ooooo yes! I can get rid of the medicine cabinet for sure. It's original and looks like it has 100 layers of paint caked on - eek. Also will remove the towel bar, it's unnecessary.

    The space doesn't get much natural light, so I was thinking of doing an almost black, black rather than very black to soften the space a bit. (?)

    I love the look of tile up the wall, but we may do a complete overhaul in the next few years so would rather save the cash - maybe can do a darker accent color in the meantime. - thanks!

    (I've never demo'd anything, slightly nervous about removing the soffit. We are having the walls retextured and popcorn ceiling removed in a couple of weeks. Maybe I should attempt it before then, so they can fix it if I mess anything up ;)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    The key variable here is the size of the "base plate" of the sconces. They take up anywhere from 4.5 - 7" and can be a problem with two mirrors that large. You have to get the wires and junction boxes in place as well and getting them where the electrician can attach to exiting framing can be tricky. Might be wise to get those in before you buy mirrors and lighting. Measure twice, buy once! lol

  • 9 years ago
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    Mandiio,,yes, lol, that would be a good idea. and since it's dark, get someone to install a recessed light box for the flush mount light. it will add light and look great in that space. and Flo is right, before you get everything refinished, you need to get the holes cut in that back wall. decide first which lights are going where.

    I wouldn't worry about almost black or black. The glossy, crisp black will look great against the white. and the gloss will reflect some of the light. look at this black wainscot. beautiful dark black. because it has some gloss and overhead lighting, it doesn't look like a black hole.

    take out the medicine cabinet and try something like what I did to our flip. lined the inside w/cement board and tiled it with leftover marble tile I found on Craigslist. Then we framed it w/baseboard molding. You could do something very smooth and simple to match your cabinet doors. (BTW, I painted this dresser I modified into a vanity with a glossy black and added crystal knobs. This will give you an idea of how yours can look) I should have painted the trim around the cabinet black instead of white.

    look into getting a similar type rug

  • 9 years ago

    Oh AMAZING! Ok, black. love it. :)

    I totally want to do a medicine cabinet makeover too - thanks for the idea!

    I'm leaning toward the 3 long light saber lights and keeping the soffit with extra lighting from above/behind. This sconce looks like another good option besides the one already mentioned. It measures 20.25" long vs. the initial one mentioned from Lowes at 27" long.

    Measurements freak me out. I'll have to go back and re-measure the spacing. The new mirrors will be identical width of the old ones. I'm attaching more pictures here in case anything stands out about the spacing ....

    The existing mirrors are ~25" L and new will be 40" top to bottom. (old = 20Wx25L, new = 20Wx40L, wall is 60"W and ~48" to the top of the soffit)


  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Are you using the 4" backsplash? If so, that is 4" off your 48" top to bottom measurement which means the mirrors will only have 2" clearance top and bottom under the soffit? Tight. You won't be putting any light above them then. They seem too tall to me for the space. The sides look like they might work although one side looks wider than the other? I like the mirrors being taller, but what about the size of your sinks? Same? I don't want to make you crazy but all these details will make a difference. You could do a full mirror with beveled edges and have the lights cut through and mounted on top of the mirrors? Have you purchased the mirrors? Side lighting is best for facial lighting because of fewer shadows.

    2-Light Sconce, Polished Chrome · More Info

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you both! The 48" is from the top of the backsplash to where the soffit starts. I just re-checked the mirror dimensions and they're actually slightly smaller than I thought (19.75" x 38" L - not 20x40").

    I'm in love with the inspiration pic, so really hoping to get these specific mirrors. I've already been able to source them at a reasonable price. Thank you all for the help and encouragement. :)

    Great idea to visualize with painters tape!!!

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    That should work! Go for it. Just get the thinnest, longest sconces you can. I love your vision!
  • 9 years ago
    Ok! We took the unnecessary soffit down completely and will be keeping the electrical box exactly where it is. Here's a picture of the progress, the mirrors may be 4-6" higher once hung.

    Is a double light with bulbs facing up the best option?

    Still thinking of painting the cabinet almost black, and frame of mirrors an oil rubbed bronze! Walls are getting a nice coat of BM Ballet White. I hope to share more progress pics soon!!
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Congratulations. I'll diagram some ideas tomorrow. I think up lights with the new taller ceiling will create shadows on your face and make it darker than practical to see yourself in the mirror. The ornate mirror top also suggests the center fixture will need to compliment that detail and let it stand out versus fight with. A simpler approach will be necessary to maintain the love of mirrors you have expressed. There may be a new way to look at sconces in your future, as in something that mounts vertically and aims light to the sides. Just first thoughts for tonight.


    great start!.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Here's a diagram with a few lighting options I found online at Lowes and Home Depot- you had indicated a desire for budget fixtures earlier. I believe they are all under $100 and some significantly less than that.

    Caveat- I selected bronze toned fixtures to relate to your proposal to paint the mirror frames darker. Tying them together, versus coordinating to the faucets, will pull them into unison. I believe they all have capabilities up to 60 watts, and with 2 60 watt bulbs there should be plenty of light on your face. ADD A DIMMER to the switch so you can control the level of light you want versus having planes circle to land every time you're in the bathroom.

    I think, with the taller wall, you will need to do a bit darker or find a cool paper for the rear wall. you need to highlight the height, and set the mirror/ light combo up to be the focal of the entire room. if the mirrors are on a same color wall like the rest of the space, they will appear dwarfed. Not a good thing with the love you have for them.

    You can play color, but dark relating to the cabinets is the key so go deep with the color of your choice.



  • 9 years ago

    Hi DesignUnplugged, Thank you - your insight is so comprehensive! Based on your feedback, I'm thinking almost black for the cabinet, then a soft velvety dark grey (slight purple tones) for the wall.

    I'm relieved to hear that it will be light enough, without odd shadows.(and I will install a dimmer!). This space is actually OPEN to our bedroom.. a gem feature from the 70s ;)

    The last light option appeals to me most since it is most basic, and to your point will not conflict with the mirror. I'm a little flexible on pricing now that we've decided not to install 3 separate lights, and can spend more on just one.

    I'm attaching a light I've had my eye on, there's something elegant about it .. what do you think, is it too much? Is it most important that the light doesn't overlap with the scallops on the mirror frame?


    Vendome Double Sconce (Circa Lighting)


    Height: 14"Width: 18"Extension: 9"Backplate: 5.25" RoundShade Details: 4" X 5.5" X 6"

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Mandiio, , Thank you. I/m glad you find the feedback helpful.

    Here are two slightly, very slightly different sketches with your fixture included. If I am close to being proportional with the light and mirror. the original mirror location, accounting for your face view, may prove slightly too low for the light you like. he second suggest , I hope< the subtle difference in raising the mirror slightly to nestle the base of the fixture into the round arcs of the mirror top a little better. I believe we're talking partial inches, but the shift can make or break the nesting of the light with the taller stems and shade, I think. I tried for the luscious purple description you provide on the wall, but don't think I can capture the deliciousness of your description. I thought if the mirror starts to fee too high off the backsplash is a simple glass shelf equal in width to the mirror can add a simple anchor without drawing attention. it can also add a little character for a bud vase, perfume bottle, candle, etc. if so desired. supports can be very minimal as this is not holding significant weight. Again go for the bronze you are looking at for the wall items.


  • 9 years ago
    Ok, I hate to rain on your parade, but that double sconce light in between the two mirrors does not look good.

    Your inspiration photo showed sconces....

    Can you not rewire for a different set up?

    When you removed the soffit, you should've rewired...
  • 9 years ago
    I would consider one large mirror. It looks like a small space and the two mirrors seem to chop up the space. I'm thinking that one mirror over both sinks might look better. Just another thought.
  • 9 years ago
    You do have to consider the width of the base plate as mentioned before. Measure everything over and over and be there for the installation. This was in my previous home . It was all very well planned and executed. 3 sconces over a 72" vanity on a 74.5" wall.
  • 9 years ago
    Thanks all for your insight and opinions! I'll be sure to share what I end up doing. In the end I'll do my best and go with what I like. I'm doing it all on my own, no installers. (insert muscle emoji) :) xo
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    It doesn't look like you have room to install sconces to the side of the mirrors. I would put one above each mirror.