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Neighbors and a gate between our properties.

9 years ago

First off, I apologize if I'm posting in the wrong area.

Ok kind of a long story but here goes... we bought our home last year from a woman whose 70 year old mother lives next door. There is a chain link fence with a gate separating the properties. When school let out in June, the next door neighbor's granddaughter and great-grandchildren moved in with her. This granddaughter is the daughter of the woman I bought my home from. So to make this story easier I will give them names...

1. 70 yr old next door neighbor - Betty

2. Woman I bought home from and Betty's

daughter - Kim

3. Granddaughter of Betty and daughter of

Kim - Ashley

4. 5 yr old son of Ashley - Jaxson

Ever since Ashley and Jaxson moved in next door it has been total chaos. I was very nice in the beginning which they took advantage of and let Jaxson play with my kids for several hours days in a row. But when we had places to go or things to do and I told him he had to go home he would get mad and ask me why. I'd walk him to the gate and shut the gate. Within minutes he would be back knocking on my door. There were several occasions he came into our home at 9am, 10am, etc. Yes my door was unlocked but it was my garage door! I sent him home on another occasion and heard my dark barking in our garage. I went to check and he was sitting there watching tv in our garage after I'd already sent him home 15 minutes earlier! He's broke things. One just happened to be a throttle cable on a kids motorcycle that our friend was storing in our garage. When he climbed on it I asked him to get off of it and he told me he didn't have to. That's his response to almost everything I ask or tell him. "I don't have to." Eventually my husband and I decided we had had enough and our kids weren't playing with him anymore so we asked Betty to put a lock on the gate til we can get our own 6 foot high fence built. She said she would but she, Kim, and Ashley became angry with us. I explained why we wanted this. They act as if we are lying and making it up which we would never do. Kim has told me herself that Ashley doesn't watch her kids! I'm baffled. Now Jaxson is digging holes under the fence. None of them say anything to him. He had the keys to the lock one day and let himself over in my yard. He tries climbing the fence. I don't understand why they can't understand this is our yard. We pay the taxes. We pay the mortgage here. How can they decide to just help themselves to my yard when we never go onto their property. Are we wrong for wanting our home, yard and privacy back?!

Comments (16)

  • 9 years ago

    You may want to contact your local law enforcement and inquire about a no trespassing order. Sounds drastic, but your privacy is being invaded and no one of any authority seems to care. Also, set up a camera to document any trespasses.

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  • 9 years ago

    Sounds like this kid needs some help & (perhaps tough) love. I'm a firm believer that we are placed where we are at a certain time for a purpose - maybe this is yours right now?

  • 9 years ago
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    Dbrad- what is it you expect me and my family to do?

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    Oh I don't have anything specific in mind - just feel the kid out for what he's missing. Is his dad around much? If not, perhaps include him the next time your husband does an activity with the kids.

    Invite him over for a family movie night where the kids dress up as their favorite Marvel character and watch the new lego batman movie or something.

    If your kids are older than him, explain all of this to them - that you are trying to reach out as a family and love someone that needs it.

    Right now this kid sees you as just the new people that live in the house next door - a house he's no doubt spent quite a few years growing up in/around since his family members previously owned it. And if he's saying stuff like that when you try to correct him, he's not being taught properly at home to respect others. Loving the kid could improve his opinion of you and give him reason to listen to you in the future - after all, you're the family that let's him do cool stuff! Once you've built some rapport, your husband can let him know your basic house rules and he'll be more likely to obey them.

    Just thinking out loud - not trying to criticize or guilt you into helping the kid, especially since you've been nice to him already. I've just seen kids like that who seem to respond well to love and inclusion. Your own kids will benefit too - not just from helping him themselves, but also from watching their parents modeling how to reach out to others.

  • 9 years ago

    I would be concerned that a 5 yr old is totally unsupervised. He's in your garage that probably is not child-proof and could be walking on the roads! This is a police and/or child services matter. I would tell the neighbors that the next time the 5 YO appears on your property uninvited and unsupervised, you will be calling the authorities.

  • 9 years ago

    If you really want to stop him from coming over scare the hell out of him make him afraid of your house. He 5 should be easy. Tell him monsters live under the beds and eat children for dinner maybe witches in the attic. May not win you brownie points in neighborhood, would solve problem of kid coming over.

  • 9 years ago

    If he is hurt on your property, they will hold you liable. Lock your doors. If he knocks, either ignore him or tell him he needs to go home and/or call your neighbor's house and tell them to come and get him. You should be able to enjoy your own property without an uninvited smart mouth pest. If they complain that they used to live there, remind them that it is now your property and ask them if they would like to make your mortgage payments or pay your homeowners taxes. Build a nice solid fence as soon as you can afford it without a gate between the properties.

  • 9 years ago

    Dbrad- This child, Jaxson, has a mother and great grandmother he lives with. He visits his father on the weekends. He has a wonderful grandmother Kim and her husband who does everything for this kid. He doesn't go without. He has plenty of adults in his life but it seems none teach his respect or manners. I've been friends with Kim for years and trust me, this bothered me a lot to have to say we don't want him coming over to our home anymore. They think he does no wrong. It's not my or my husband's responsibility to parent this child when he has parents and grandparents. We were very kind to this child in the beginning and were taken advantage of like we were a free babysitter or something. Without warning, he would come through our door and no one would come to check on him for hours. He was included when my children played, ate, drank and swam. We had family visiting from 12 hours away. My kids wanted to play with their cousins they see like three times a year and this kid still hung around after I asked him to go home because he was being mean. He stood at the end of my deck and watched us. So please take that guilt trip elsewhere. And the little boy still talks to us all. He's oblivious that he's even done anything wrong. We are nice to him as well. We are not mean to kids but we had had enough. It's our home and we would like to enjoy it with our children.

  • 9 years ago

    Nel smith- He would be unsupervised quite a bit. We live in the country so it's back roads but still. I don't let my kids out of the yard. His grandmother Kim says she's had to hire babysitters for the kid cause the mother won't watch him. I think it's a child services matter also but everyone in their family seems to think it's no big deal and we are the bad guy for not wanting him at our home every single day.

  • 9 years ago

    Aardvark411- I have locked all doors and closed garage doors before. We had got back about 8:00 pm from an all day trip and was ready for bed. He banged on every door for atleast 10-15 minutes. I watched it all on my security cameras. It was a total of about 30 minutes before he went home throwing a tantrum. His mom actually came and got him cause she heard his tantrum.

  • 9 years ago

    He may have mental issues. I wouldn't "scare the hell out of him"......Sounds like you need to have a grown up chat with whoever is responsible for him. And save up for that fence!

  • 9 years ago

    It sounds to me like the "mental issues" are with the parents. Lazy parents & lack of discipline! Poor kid. But he's not YOUR responsibility!

    As stated by aadvark, if he is hurt on your property, you'll be held responsible.

    Every time he showed up on my property uninvited, I'd call them to come fetch him.

    I'd put my own lock on the gate, and I'd keep all my doors locked. And in all honesty, I'd not invite the tot over. Every time he knocked on my door, I'd answer and tell him "No you cannot come in. NO you cannot come over. Go Home." He's already demonstrated he doesn't know what boundaries are (again, the parents fault.)

    You've been very patient with the situation and they've mistaken that for compliance. Being patient isn't bad, but they're taking advantage of you.

    Good luck!

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  • 9 years ago

    PennyDesign- I've had to have a chat with his grandmother (who makes excuses for his behavior) and his great grandmother (who got mad at me). His mother is too immature to have a conversation. I tried to talk to her about it in the beginning and she walked into her great grandmothers house and then called her mommy and told her what I said. It's her child, not her mother's child.

  • 9 years ago

    Pudgeder- Absolutely, lazy parenting! The mother could really care less. I realized that when he would be at my home for hours and she would never come to check on him. Thank you for understanding that I was truly patient with this kid, and still am. Our privacy fence will be going up when the weather cools off because it's still so hot here. And it's about 350 feet of fence to put up just on that side.

  • 9 years ago

    I really feel for you, Luckycharm. I have a similar experience with a child who visits our lake cottage and I am so thankful I don't see her on a daily basis. In her case, I'll call her Sally, I know she didn't win the mommy lottery and I really try to empathize with her. What I think is similar is that she and probably Jax, too, have too many authority figures in their life without the benefit of a strong mother. Sally has a grandpa that she lives with most of the time, an aunt she sees a lot, after school care, girl scout leaders, church group leaders, school teachers and a large extended family. In a good month she might see her mother and her newborn half brother twice. So I feel her pain but don't feel like I can discipline her effectively when I see her about twice a month.


    I really like MY boys suggestion to put your own lock on your side of the gate. Speaks volumes without words. Don't let it escalate into a war. Go about the business of enjoying your space without feeling you have to do anything for Jax. He doesn't need more cooks stirring the pot. He needs his mother. Let them figure it out, hopefully sooner than later.