Hi thanks for your response!

The purpose of the 4' dead space between the island and the windows will be to have a breakfast bar, there will be chairs on that side. (Not sure if that was what you were referring too)

We have been discussing with a designer, although we wanted a prep sink which we placed in the corner? We are just not sure if this will work with the design based on cabinets then counter then cabinets then counter

And yes everything can be torn down between the dining room and kitchen.

I assumed that there would be chairs there, but I don't think they will be used. I noticed the prep sink in the corner. Is the existing range gas?

No we are not able to have gas in our building, the cooktop will be induction.

I have attached an additional photo showing the rest of the living space in which we plan to put a TV on the North wall in between the pocket door and windows.

A designer that we had in last night mostly concerned about the prep sink location? They recommended moving it to the right of the ovens. Which I don't see value in as it would be too close to main sink.

I agree with your designer that the prep sink is too close to the corner, and also with your concern that moving it will make it too close to the other sink. If you're set on this general layout, just move the sink over slightly towards the steam oven. Having said that, I think the giant L-shaped peninsula is awkward, and as I stated earlier it creates an unwelcoming breakfast bar. If the cooktop is electric, it would be so much nicer to have it on a true island. I realize that the windows are probably below counter height- and that does pose a design dilemma which needs further study.

Hi Shea. I will recommend that (if you haven't already) you post this over at the kitchen forum. There are lots of really knowledgeable people over there that can help with your layout .

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I am trying to figure out how you are getting the plumbing moved , that 4’ space looks weird to me too, you only need 12” for an overhang not 2’ and 4’ walkway along the seating area is too narrow IMO you need a new KD . The prep sink in the corner is just useless , DW in the corner is just awkward, it looks like uppers are only going in one corner.Get your designer to draw a scaled 3d drawing of the space you will get a better idea of how odd and how much wasted space there is with this layout. If that is a patio door behind where you want people to sit I will tell you that will not work at all . This needs areal revamp before moving forward.

You would have better luck with kitchen layout in the Kitchen Forum.

Also how wide is your living room? Make sure when you post in the kitchen forum you include measurements.

Doesn't look like you'll end up with much space to sit in the living room -- I note that they helpfully didn't bother to sketch in those items to make that clear.

Picture four people sitting in that 4 foot space... even two is too many. I'm going to have nightmares about this one.

Our living room is 20' x 13' to the hall way or 16' to kitchen

The Kitchen is 22' x 12'

The current dwg has the sink counter at 4' wide i'm told this could made 3' wide making the space between windows and counter 5'?

It's better but still a bottleneck.

I agree about the bar area. 4 ft is not enough room. If the person in the corner wants out everyone will have to get up. I have my dishwasher built inside a cabinet so that when I open the dishwasher door, it is at waist level. Then I have a deep drawer underneath and a deep pantry above the dishwasher for oversized or seldom used items.

Can the bar and barstools be moved to the north side where the cooktop is or is that a wall? I would also think about not having a coffee steamer and prep sink. For me, it is more important to have storage for dishes and food than to have a coffee maker that my husband uses once per day. Some people drink coffee all day at home though. Is there any way to move the sink all the way to the windows? Make the entire thing a kitchen and do away with the 4 ft bar?

Is your microwave built in above or below your oven? Hopefully it is below.

Do you have to have electric on the island? If you can move the sink to the wall (4ft space), your cooktop could be in a much better space. Do you need a vent hood with an induction? I hate vent hood that are on islands. They make the kitchen look smaller and block my view of the living room. You have a lot of upper and lower wasted space due to corners. You could have a U shaped kitchen with an island where the cooktop is. Depends on your windows. Keep trying. You will get it exactly the way you want it eventually.