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Kitchen lighting!

13 years ago
I would love some advice on lighting for over our kitchen table, which is our only indoor dining space. We are in the process of replacing the carpet and tiles with polished boards, removing the florescent lights and putting in downlights. We have stainless steel/chrome tones though the fridge, stools and oven. Would glass conical pendants with nickel accents work, or perhaps a black pendant? Any other ideas? The wall will be either hung with framed prints and photos. Thanks!

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  • PRO
    13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    HI there! The lighting for this space should have a few layers to accent the art walls and to fill the space with an inviting light. Here is a simple solution: If you are installing downlights it is critical that they are placed correctly. I would use adjustable cans so that you are able to adjust the light a bit. I would light the art wall with downlights that wash the art walls. A good lighting store will be able to tell you which to use and where to place them so that they will work best. Then I would hang one good sized pendant light fixture with high wattage/lumens over the center of the table to fill the whole space with a flattering ambient light. Put everything on preset dimmers and it will be beautiful! Try YLighting or Rejuventaion Lighting online for lots of pendant options. Good luck!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    One more thing: I would look for a pendant fixture that throws light out from all sides so you get light on the ceiling and walls - not just under the light itself. This will make the ceiling appear higher and the whole space warm and inviting!
  • 13 years ago
    Thank you for taking the time to give some advice! it is much appreciated. We are in Australia, so unfortunately our range is limited. I have been browsing the Rejuvenation Lighting website and wonder if a bowl chandelier style pendant might work? love the pendant that you used both over the stairs and the dining table in the San Fransisco Marina residence. Would this achievethe effect you suggest? We also need a pendant for over our wooden staircase.

    The kitchen and living area are on the top floor as we have spectacular views of the city and bay, which is what drew us to the house. Our local store, www.schots.com.au, has a few more traditinal lighting options however many stores here are following the industrial or modern trends. My husband is visiting Southern California in June so perhaps he could bring back something from the US.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Great! The Rejuvenation bowl chandeliers would be perfect in terms of quality of light and the style looks like it could be right for your house as well. They have some good fixtures that would work well in a stairway, too, and their price point is quite good. All my best to you on your project. Fell free to ask more questions. Cynthia Wright
  • 13 years ago
    Thank you Cynthia. May I ask from where the bowl style pendants were sourced in the San Fransisco home on your profile? The darker trim would tie in the black accents around the home.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    The bowl pendants were made in Oregon for this project. The metal color is bronze with handmade glass. Thanks for your interest!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Danna--C Wright has some nice ideas. It looks like the ceiling lighting is sparse beyond the fluor. fixture over table. A combo of can lights and a pendant on a swag would work well in that area. I would suggest looking at the general area, and just not the "table." Best to have both "general" & "task" lighting. You should consider putting the general lights on a dimmer, depending on your tastes. Lighting is important, so don't scrimp!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    The lighting aspect of a project is all about what happens after dark. I'm all for shielding light sources. The last thing you want is glare and reflection, especially if there is a view beyond.

    If you have a balcony or some trees in the foreground of your view it would help cut down on the 'black mirror' effect, where you end up seeing your own reflection instead of the view beyond. You made very good choices with the black baffles the opaque shades, this little bit of additional outside lighting will enhance your view. Think of it is lighting the proscenium of a stage, helping frame the main event.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Call ADI electrical Services 866-561-7545

    Recess ligthing will brighten this room up trmendously.
  • 13 years ago
    Thank you all for your excellent advice! I had not heard of black baffle, despite speaking to an electrician and also having a lighting consultant through the home. This makes good sense. I will keep all of these points in mind when making final arrangements with our electrician this week. Thank you once again.
  • 13 years ago
    I'm so glad you are benefitting from Houzzer advice. We also did under cabinet lights (a discussion in itself) but it looks like you don't have a lot of upper cabinets. As far as pendants we avoided them over the island because of the view but did put a chandelier over our dining table- the rooms flow into each other and we also didn't want conflict between the fixtures. Looking at your photos again, ask your electrician about low voltage down light /art lights that bath the walls with light. You have some nice walls and they might look lovely.
    Good luck--ask lots of questions and try to learn as much as you can. lighting is an investment in your home that makes a big difference in your daily enjoyment!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    If you do choose to use recessed adjustable low-voltage fixtures, you might consider using LED version of the standard MR 16 lamp. The one that I like very much is made by company called Soraa (www.soraa.com). They produce 50 watts worth of illumination for 11.5 watts worth of power consumption. They are very close in color to that of incandescent.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    FYI: Randall Whitehead is the best lighting designer ever. He has, literally, written the books on lighting design. Listen to his advice!!!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Fellow "Houzzers' can't go wrong with a ringing endorsement from one of our own.
  • 13 years ago
    Wish I'd known. Will pass the info on to my friends..
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    Another option to look for is the Green Creative MR16 replacement out - 95 CRI, 7W replaces a 50W - 30,000 hour lamp life and dimming is beautiful. . . .a second generation of the Soraa. Please make sure to look at lensing - none of these can be behind glass. . . it cooks them.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Adding Recess lighting to your home will help show off all the beautiful details of your structure and furniture. brightening and diplaying the features with this simple upgrade.

    Great cheap price to pay for an expensive look.

    Please call 866-561-7545 for details and cost.
  • 7 years ago

    randall whitehead, why do you recommend the Soraa? To save on energy consumption or for the color of the light ?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Hi Lana, It would be both. I like the energy savings, but without the right color temperature (Kelvin) and CRI (color rendering index) of light you are stuck with a less than perfect quality or light for a long, long time. Look for a CRI of 90 or higher. The color temperature is more a matter of personal choice. I like 2400K to 2700K. Soraa makes them, along with Green Creative and 90Plus

  • 7 years ago

    Hmm, interesting thoughts. Our local store recommends 3000 kelvin in the entire house and I am finding the light harsh since we changed to LED. It Could be that, or too much wattage in the table lamp.

    We are now building and I want to get it right this time. Do you recommend 2700 kelvin throughout the house, or 3000 in the kitchen pot lights, and 2700-2400 in the living room?

    I was also advised by someone to consider black baffle in the livingroom (it’s a large great room). I am not sure whether the kitchen should also be black baffle or white? There will be 3 pendants at the island, a hanging fixture over the table, and i’m Trying to create a dim atmosphere in the living room without the clutter of table lamps. I could do a standing tall lamp if needed and thought I would put the living room potlights on a Dimmer. Do the kitchen and living room baffles need to match? Or would black baffles make a busy ceiling and offer poor task lighting in the kitchen? Your thoughts would be so greatly appreciated!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    3000° Kelvin is definitely too cool for a residential interior. Stick with 2700° Kelvin and ceiling and 2400° in your decorative fixtures. If your kitchen is open to the other rooms then all the trims should match. Stick with white trims. yes, put the recessed fixtures on a dimmer. Make sure the dimmer and recessed fixtures are compatible. The fixture manufacturer normally lists which dimmers work best with their products on their catalog sheets.

    I would recommend an adjustable trim over a fixed down light. That gives you some flexibility on how the illumination is directed. Do not put recessed fixtures directly over seating areas, it creates harsh and unflattering shadows on people's faces.

    Remember, it is extremely important to select LED fixtures and bulbs that have a CRI of 90 or higher. I cannot stress this too much. It is the difference between Hershey's chocolate and Godiva chocolate.

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