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Why did my lacquer with blush eliminator get crinkly?

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Please explain why this happened. I have a set of black lacquer shelves and supports. I’d started awhile back, but never back to it til just now. (I just do this for “fun” . I have too many “fun” projects accumulated.)

My last coat of black lacquer developed blush. I am using lacquer in a spray can. It turned cold so I back-burnered the project. I ordered blush eliminator but it seemed like it was always either cold or rainy on the days I was home.

We’ve had a couple of days of warm temperatures, no wind, and low humidity. So, yesterday I set it up in the garage again. I kept all the pieces plus the can in the house til I was ready to run them out and spray
them.

The blush eliminator worked beautifully on all the large flat surfaces. The shelves are now perfect.

One of the uprights had blush on an edge. But it’s a forward edge, and will be very visible so I really wanted to get rid of it.

I propped it up and sprayed the edge. But I must have had the can too close or used too much, because it got all crinkly / alligatored. I brought it in the house to dry inside under a lamp with an incandescent bulb to provide gentle heat.

This afternoon I sanded it down gently: I went down to 320 grit. I did not get it totally smooth, there were still tiny pinpoint dimples left. I did not want to risk going through all the coats of black lacquer. I don’t have any more, and I’m not close to a store. Besides, spraying just the edge without getting over spray on the front surface would be almost impossible.

I thought I could use the blush eliminator to consolidate it and eliminate the sanding lines. This time I was careful to have the can further away and not to use too much. But it immediately got all crinkly again. Not as bad as the first time,but still pretty obvious.

Sorry for the long story: but what did I do wrong?

Now, the weather will turn rainy tomorrow and become cold the day after. So I am basically out of time. I can’t spray in the house because lacquer smells too bad for my spouse.

How can I retrieve this? Thanks for your help.

Comments (7)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Sound's to me like you did everything right so there must be a wildcard in the deal. The "crinkle/alligatoring"sound's exactly like what happens when lacquer is applied over poly or oil base paint. (The blush fix base is slow lacquer thinner) Did you put the original finish on or is it possible someone applied something other than lacquer on bracket during a repair?

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The blush eliminator worked fine on the larger, flat side of the piece, though, and the haze on the edge was clearly the same as on the other pieces.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I’m sorry I didn’t explain fully in the first place. I made the shelving pieces to begin with. They will go INSIDE an existing vintage Japanese lacquer cabinet that needs additional shelves. I chose gloss black lacquer in the attempt to match the finish inside the original cabinet.

    The wood for the shelves and supports I made was unfinished. First layers were spray Zinsser clear shellac (which was the procedure recommended to me on this forum), sanded between coats, until I got the smooth, almost grain-free finish I wanted. Then I switched to the spray black lacquer. I was on about the third coat of that, when the initial blush problem showed up.

    I think that my application of blush eliminator was just too heavy on this edge piece, and that’s why it softened too far down. I just don’t know why sanding it, then re-applying, didn’t solve the problem. The re-application was light and I was more careful to keep the can further back.

  • 8 years ago

    Knowing for certain what's on there help's but deepen's the mystery. Is it possible a sheet of sandpaper,wiping cloth or anything else was accidently contaminated with oil or silicon? For instance,a cloth had been used to wipe dust off a surface that had Pledge furniture polish or somthing on it. You didn't mention fisheye eliminator and I don't see how it could be used if one is using aerosol but I'll ask anyway and explain why you should never use it in future projects. The additive can save a finish but in the process contaminate your tools and shop with silicon resulting in disaster on later finishing projects. You come across as an astute finisher so I figure "crinkle and alligatoring"mean's the same as it does for most. I'm totally at a lose as to why this happened so let's discuss ways of possibly fixing it. There are accomplished finishers on this site,hopfully some weigh in soon. Is there any reason why damage can't be sanded smooth even if that's back to raw wood then start over with same products and proceedure? I'm aware there will be overspray onto nice finish but it can be dealt with. After 3 or more coats of lacquer is on,carful sanding with super fine paper will remove overspray and blend unevenness. Once surface is satisfactory with exception of sheen,it can be buffed to any sheen desired. I really don't see any way around starting over on the damaged area and I believe that's possible without re-doing intire shelf. If you aren't familiar with buffing out lacquer,I'd suggest practicing on scrap. If the spray you used is expensive,most any lacquer can be used to get the feel for buffing. I'm sorry but I'm grasping at straws now.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    It’s possible the sandpaper was contaminated, though I doubt it. If I used it on anything, it would have just been on raw wood. Final wipe down was with a fresh microfiber cloth. I don’t use furniture polish or any silicon.

    I don’t want to spray anymore, because this whole project has been one step forward, two steps back.

    Unless anyone has other ideas, I will just sand down (not through) the black lacquer and try to bring up some semblance of the sheen with finer sandpapers. I have grits up to at least 3000 for my metal work.

  • 8 years ago

    I would expect alligator cracks to reach through all layers but hopfully enough remains' to alow sanding. It mightl be necessary to use a power tool in final step to attain sheen. I browsed Zinsser clear shellac and found one description say mineral spirits for clean up and others say alcohol or ammonia. If you still have the Zinsser container,what does it recommend for clean up?