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What should I grow here?

8 years ago

I’ve got this “planter” that’s about three feet long and a foot wide. It’s under an overhang, next to my north facing front door. Deep shade in winter, brighter but still shady in summer. Tends to be very dry, as it gets no direct rainfall. What should I do with it? Any ideas? There is a sprinkler line running nearby, so irrigation is an option, but I’d rather not if possible.

Comments (19)

  • 8 years ago

    My quick fix would be ferns. Easy to plant and care for: shallow roots, hard to kill, dump a bottle of water on them now and then. Vertical interest? Me, I'd buy a pot of creeping fig, divide it and plant among the ferns, and coax the fig to climb the brick wall.

    oldmangroot thanked irma_stpete_10a
  • 8 years ago

    Sansevierria (snake plant), anglaoenema (chinese evergreen), cordyline (ti plant) all do well w/ little to no care & low light...

    oldmangroot thanked carolb_w_fl_coastal_9/10
  • 8 years ago

    I was going to suggest sansevieria but like pea said, you'd have to be careful about opening the left side of the door. I have them in a planter on both sides of my front door and I'm always forgetting to water them and I still have to divide them regularly because they grow like crazy. I do however, think that native plants should be considered first. Not sure if blue eyed grass will grow well as far south as you are, but I'm pretty sure rain lilies do. You would need to water them occasionally. Quail berry and/or sea lavender maybe?

    oldmangroot thanked sonni1
  • 8 years ago

    I would put some kind of cactus or aloe

    oldmangroot thanked Glenn Jones(9b)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I love it, but IMPE, blue eyed grass does best w/ full sun and rich, moist soil...

    "Its native habitat is open woods, moist pinelands, fields, meadows, marshes, the edges of swamps and grassy roadsides."

    https://floridata.com/Plants/Iridaceae/Sisyrinchium+angustifolium/1078

    Aloes do well in my dry, shady front bed. It mostly gets morning sun. I think they're soap aloes (Aloe saponaria) and have pretty flowers on tall stalks - also handy to have around for minor burns and sunburn.

    oldmangroot thanked carolb_w_fl_coastal_9/10
  • 8 years ago

    Just a note on plants and their preferred growing conditions. I have had many plants that grow regardless of conditions and have had many plants that won't -even when given everything that every book and notation has suggested. Who knows? I have blue eyed grass in a full sun moist environment, in a shady not moist/not dry environment, growing up all over the yard and even have it naturally reseeded out in the hard sandy arid area among the hardiest of unidentified weeds. That does not however mean I should go around suggesting plants for places one would not expect them to thrive. My bad.

    oldmangroot thanked sonni1
  • 8 years ago

    Elephant ear

    oldmangroot thanked kikimentor
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks all. This gives me some good ideas. I’ve been ignoring this spot because it gets no rain and no sun, and it proved too difficult for me when I started gardening. This gives me some ideas how to start this spring. I’m thinking a ti plant in the center, with something for ground cover. I’d love the climbing fig, but read that it can damage the wall.

    That made me think... what about a bromeliad Wall?

  • 8 years ago

    Rocks. They don't need rain or sun or fertilizer. Not every piece of earth should be plants.

  • 8 years ago

    What about a bromeliad tree? That would be a nice project for spring and add a vertical component.


    oldmangroot thanked annafl
  • 8 years ago

    I agree with annafl. I was going to suggest the same thing but using orchids,

    oldmangroot thanked sharon2079
  • 8 years ago

    How about a tiny version of a living coral reef? Like this but smaller https://www.google.com/amp/amp.sunset.com/garden/flowers-plants/sea-bed-echeveria

    oldmangroot thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 8 years ago

    Cast Iron plants would be a good option. They do very well in dry, low light spaces. Attractive green foliage, very low maintenance, have shallow roots and slow growing so they wouldn’t get overcrowded anytime soon.

    oldmangroot thanked mosketo_08
  • 8 years ago

    Peace Lily? I just planted one of ours along our courtyard wall on the north side.

    oldmangroot thanked suncoastflowers
  • 8 years ago

    I also have some coleus, Persian shield and caladium along there. I have some pink Jasmine but I am afraid to plant it in the ground because I've heard it can be a thug.

    oldmangroot thanked suncoastflowers
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I think you have two options depending on the orientation, assuming you will water it.

    One way is to have a container next to the door, medium sized bedding plants after it, and then the shortest plants at the foot of the bed.

    Another way is if you have the tall ones against the wall and then shorter ones closer to the walkway.

    If it were me I'd probably try a container with a gardenia (fragrant, white flowered, and glossy deep green makes it nice against brick). I'd then have tropical sage summer jewel white (easy from seed), Jacobina carnea 'Alba', medium-sized pentas or the super short bedding types, and then some sort of filler like dwarf mondo grass if I didn't have any pets. But my style is "strictish color scheme" and then a lot of different types of flowers in one spot for interest. And in front of brick I'm picky and only really like whites and blacks usually.

    Other shade tolerant flowers I can think of are begonias, Golden shrimp plant, impatiens, flowering tobacco, and coleus (all of these are pretty commonly available in big box, except flowering tobacco which is super easy from seed). Stokesia and Salvia sinaloensis like shade here too but might be harder to find.

    I say go with what herbaceous flowers you like the looks of and that will tolerate shade. If they get too big you can always move them pretty easily.

    Coontie would look great here if there was more room.


    If no water, succulents and rocks are the way to go lol

    oldmangroot thanked (Jay/Jax FL/Zone 9a)
  • 8 years ago

    What did you decide? I need pictures!

    Barbie~

  • 8 years ago

    I vote for bromeliad wall. Should get enough moisture on its own and it would be so interesting. You could put Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis granules in them every once in a while to keep mosquitoes from breeding. Maybe some orchid pots and holders along the wall? I am always leery of creating maintenance nightmares, but a bromeliad wall seems pretty low maintenance for that problem area. Of course, frogs will show up to enjoy the bromeliads and hang out by your porch light to get food ... so that's something to consider with the bromeliad wall. If you don't like frogs then maybe not. Yes ... please post pictures when you decide!

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