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8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

I can't tell/ID some plants regardless what I read :), trying to check just reliable sites; paying attention to leaf shapes, growing 'style', shape and color of blooms. Could anyone help?

1. xPachyveria clavata or Pachyphytum 'Blue Haze'?

Here are few pisc of the same plant and the bloom:


Lower right was plant before beheading (and very thirsty in that photo!). Lower center is a young plant grown from leaf; blooms as today; and top photo is beheaded/top of the plant, blooming right now. Few more grown from leaves in photo below (photo today):

Beheaded stem with new growth (photo today):

TIA

Comments (20)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Not clavata or clavatum

    There is a Blue Haze. Maybe?

    http://www.crassulaceae.ch/de/artikel?akID=83&aaID=3&aiID=B&aID=2327

    harry

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  • 8 years ago

    Harry

    Thank you - that is the site I go most often to...still not sure of some minor (?) differences :) I am inclined to think it is Blue Haze, since clavata is supposed to have furcate/forked inflorescence - my plant bloomed few times and only single inflo every time.

  • 8 years ago
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    Harry

    Beautiful and much more compact plant than mine :)

    Do you have photo of the flowers?

  • 8 years ago

    hmm...not clear and bright (and sharp). For what it's worth:




  • 8 years ago
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    It looks to me that inflo of your plant is split/forked/furcated. That would be big difference between our plants. I looked at photos in ICN, and it looks more like xP. clavifolia than other two I mentioned.

    Do you have opinion on differences between your plant and mine? I am sure some of it could be difference between our growing conditions - mainly color of the leaves and mine have slight etiolation I think. I apologize for asking so many questions :)

  • 8 years ago

    Not at all; be back tomorrow.

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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    #2. Not sure about this one - top photos are of etiolated and thirsty plants, bottom 2 are beheaded plants:

    ETA: Another photo before beheading:


    #3. Very similar looking as above, but not same plant - this one is, I believe, Graptopetalum paraguayense:
    ETA: photos from Summer outdoors:

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I hope that this copy works: I just placed this on FB. My paraguaense. There were some doubts. It starts under this line:



    Graptopetalum paraguaense? What do you think?





    Opmerkingen

    Rosemarie Armstrong It could be, Harry. Although I’m thinking the leaf edges would be more crisp/defined. But overall ~ looks like a match.


    Harry Blumers thank
    you; flowers look right; leaf edges are doubtfull; there are so many
    hybrids around.. The upper blue one 'must' be hybrid, I think



    Rosemarie Armstrong Yes, with more hybrids being made, it makes it more difficult for us to ID!


  • 8 years ago

    From the four pictures you placed seems the first one really different. The other three could be very well Graptopetalums, but if they are paraguaense...? You will know when they have flowers. Paraguaense has pure white flowers; hybrids often not, but have red markins on the flowerleaves.

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  • 8 years ago

    The very first plant you placed: maybe take a look at Pachyphytum werdermanni. Yours is maybe not 'fat'enough, but the flowers can make a match????

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  • 8 years ago
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    Harry

    Thank you for taking time :)

    I have quite a few that I think are G. paraguayense (#3), they all grew from leaves that someone gifted me. It really grows very well from leaves. Leaves get slight lavender tint and are quite shiny, just like pearls, in some sunlight. Adding some pics from Summer to previous post.

    Plant #2 leaves are more bluish color. Hopefully, it will also decide to bloom, so it may help to ID.

    I added some summer photos to previous post.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    #4: anyone recognizes this one?

    #5: how about these - maybe thirsty H. venosa ssp. tessellata?

    #5a: not sure if same as above:

    TIA

  • 8 years ago

    For certain a Haworthia. I will look into my pictures.

    or by the second look Astroloba???


  • 8 years ago

    Harry

    Thank you for a tip. I'll look at astrolobas here

  • 8 years ago
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    #6: could this be Dudleya?

    TIA

  • 8 years ago
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    #7: caved in and bought a cactus...it looked nice with the babies :) ID suggestions? TIA

  • 8 years ago

    No 6: is well possible Dudleya. Dudleya's are not easy to get here - only one time - so I cannot say for certain.

    No 7: I should say Notocactus. You will know if you have flowers. Here's one:




    is three times Noto campestrensis.

    Yours is not the same, but could be in the family.

    Echinopsis is also klinging in my head.

    And a shot from the garden from this week; things are going to start:


    greetings from Harry

  • 8 years ago

    ps. maybe correction: Lobivia formerly; now Echinopsis

  • 8 years ago
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    Harry

    Thank you again.

    I hope #6 is Dudleya, this is first time I have seen it for sale.

    I see that Echinopsis genus is quite large.

    I envy your weather - Spring flowers may appear here in minimum 2months, if...