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Is this sloppy tile work?

8 years ago

We had two small bathrooms remodeled and I feel like the tile work is sloppy at best.


They put a cubby in the shower. On one side of the cubby the bullnose tile goes overlaps in one direction and in the other the other direction. They put silicon rubber on one side to cover up the resulting gaps. Is silicon rubber ever used in tile work?


The thing that bugs me the most is the transition from the tile in the bathroom to the carpet in the hall/bedroom. I expected them to position the tile the right length so that the carpet could be neatly re-tucked against the tile. Instead they cut the tile about 3/8 inch short and uneven from one tile to the next. I complained about this and the contractor said we'll fix that. They fixed it by putting a metal strip against the carpet and then place to put grout in between the metal strip and the tile. See the picture below.


I can't remember seeing this ever, in any house I've been in. Not to be snobby, but our house is not a trailer, it's currently worth about $1M. We were expecting the work to look like it was done by a craftsman who cares about their work.


I'm completely unsatisfied with this transition.


Is the a common technique in carpet to tile transition?


Am I being unreasonable in my quality expectations?


Thanks,

Mike-



Comments (27)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I don't care for the way that looks. (ETA --but I do think the variation in tile length is within standard. I don't like where it ends or how the resolved the gap).

    However, I would have also had the tile come to a transition at the trim stop for the door .

    If the door swings in and the door is the white outline, I would have the transition at the red line.

    If the door swings out and is the green outline, I would have the transition at the blue line.

    You have the possibility of putting some kind ot threshold in that would take up the entire thickness of the wall from the left green line to the right white line if you don't mind having some sort of saddle like transition.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    The difference in length of the tile is within industry standard, but the gap between the tile and the carpet is definitely a mistake. The carpet and tile should fit tightly together. If it had been installed tightly to the carpet, the difference in length would disappear. The tile cannot move (without a full tear out) but the carpet can. It might be possible to have the carpet stretched and re-tucked in the right position. If you post pictures of the other issue we might better understand the problem there.

  • 8 years ago

    Here's some pictures of the cubby. You can see on one side of the cubby the bullnose is used on the face and looks nice, and on the other side it was used on the side of the cubby and juts out. They then filled in the void with silicon rubber. You can also see that all the way up the corner of the shower they put a bead of silicon rubber which of course doesn't match the grout. Is this common?


  • 8 years ago

    How about posting some in progress pictures? $1 bet time.

  • 8 years ago

    Hack-level quality at best. If you think that the bullnose on the left
    side of the cubby looks nice, then your expectations are low. None of
    this would be acceptable to me.

  • 8 years ago

    I think though, one of the problems with judging a homeowner is this is that it's difficult to know what a good job is worth and it's awful hard to get multiple estimates in many markets to compare, and things like that.

    I got a glowing referral from someone and the contractor ended up being awful. He could do what the person who referred him wanted, but not what I wanted.

    I also got an opinion that what I was paying the above contractor was middling to high, from a design professional. What I found was that the designer was a good designer but their own expectations for quality did not even approach mine. I ended up paying someone three times what the original guy was charging.

    But how was I supposed to know really? It was my first remodel and I got opinions from people I trusted on some level anyway, and had several contractor blow me off completely and one end up in jail for vehicular homicide before he sent out the estimate. I didn't have a lot to go by.

    I just want to put that out there before the Greek Chorus of placing the blame squarely in the homeowner's lap starts.

  • 8 years ago

    I think the whole thing looks awful. My contractor acts like we just need to clean up a few things.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I know tile setters who would be HORRIFIED to have that type of install show up in a cabin in the middle of no where. A $1M house....most certainly should not have that type of install.

    Who's the GC? Who hired the tile setter? Is the tile setter a "Tile Setter" or a 'guy who will lay tile'? Anything about Best Building Practices in the contract? What is the contract? Extent of job description? Water proofing?

    Photos showing the entire space would be VERY helpful.

    P.S.: I NEVER bet against Sophie! If I did, I would be broke before next Friday!

  • 8 years ago

    How about posting some in progress pictures? $1 bet time.

    Wouldn't dare bet against you Sophie. LOL

  • 8 years ago

    What Sophie is getting out in her bet is that proper prep of the shower most likely wasn't done either. Meaning you might be looking at water intrusion problems very soon which is why she asked about in progress photos.

  • 8 years ago

    I don't have any progress photos. The person that did the prep was different than the person that laid the tile.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Point being . If what is visible looks bad odds are high what's underneath is wrong. I'd be willing to bet a lot more than a dollar based on what you shared. Pop off the control valve cover to see how the wall assembly is constructed. Should provide insight.

  • 8 years ago

    sloppy

  • 8 years ago

    Get ready to have a do over. For way more money. And mold remediation charges.

  • 8 years ago

    Definitely a bad job. Agree with others that what is under could be more scarry than what is on top. Demo time.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    “Is this sloppy tile work?” Yes.
  • 8 years ago
    Your contractor is setting the bar for the quality of his work very low if he thinks this is fine. It's quite sloppy actually.
  • 8 years ago

    Oh no! Is the reno complete? Can you have them correct the mistakes that were made?

    I feel for you. It's not right, nor fair to you.

    Hoping you can get this corrected. :(

  • 8 years ago

    Ouch...The grout lines are not uniform width throughout, especially if you compare the top corners to the bottom corners of the box. They also should have used caulk that was color matched to the grout. This is sloppier than many DIY jobs I've seen and I would absolutely demand the GC have someone else redo it.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Beyond the look this is just going to be so hard to keep clean. The grout lines are going to cause you a lot of pain in that area.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Tile and carpet should meet directly in the center of where the door closes. A Z bar transition should have been used to help tuck the carpet against the tile which would hide the unevenness of the tiles.
    Below is an illustration on how z bar works, below that is a photo of carpet where z bar was used to tuck next to tile.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    I have always been told that the transition between materials should be under the door. When the door is closed, no part should show of the other flooring
  • 8 years ago

    These errors makes me very sad to see, and sympathetic about having to ask for corrections! Before I hire someone for a bath remodel...how do I avoid these things happening? When I interview a contractor, I try to get specifics, get recommendations, listen to people's opinions, ask if I can see examples of their work. I tell them I'm a stickler to details...some have not come back with estimates. Bottom line, how do I know when to trust a contractor? Thanks for advice!

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The tile job is so rough - so sorry, especially in the niche - We use Schluter profiles most time to finish the outside edges and use quartz or marble shelves for the interior shelves of the niche. So sorry to see their poor workmanship :(

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  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    suesanders contact me thru my page leave your email. Ill try to help you..

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Yes, it is sloppy.