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Frau Karl Druschki

8 years ago

I see this rose being offered by a lot of nurseries but I hear NOTHING about anyone growing it. If you grow it or know anything about this rose, please fill me in on it. I'd like to try it but if it is a useless plant, I have no time for a dud.

Comments (15)

  • 8 years ago

    Frau Drushki is a beautiful, strong white rose but she doesn't like rain and will get a lot of black spot. In my PNW garden, I finally gave up on her as she always look sad.

  • 8 years ago

    Well, there you are . . . Blackspot isn't a problem here -- and for most of the year, it doesn't rain.
    Which is why I said I shouldn't answer that question. ;-)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I've one, but it's only going into its third growing season with me this year.

    Mine gets a touch of mildew spring and autumn, with some black spot near the end of the growing season.

    It's been a strong grower with one magnificent spring flush of crisp white blooms that hate rain and thrips love. My second season I had a smaller later summer flush too.

    It seems fairly hardy for me in Z5b; this last winter when temperatures dipped below zero I lost cane and had to prune more off than after last winter. I hear it dislikes such heavy pruning, but in my climate it cannot be avoided unless iron clad cold hardy roses are selected like many rugosas, albas, gallicas, the Canadian Explorer series, etc.

    I enjoy mine while I have it. We'll see how it performs in time.

    Steven

  • 8 years ago

    I have it Ken. I was able to get it for $5 at Home Depot back when they had OGRs once in awhile. It's a Hybrid Perpetual, but for me it grows like a climber. It does get black spot, but I know you spray. It has pinkish buds that open to pure white flowers. They can have exhibition form, but the substance is not there and they blow quickly. So if you are thinking of exhibiting it, that may sway you. I do like it in the yard, and if you get the blooms early enough, they are good cut flowers.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Lovely rose if it likes your climate (or if you spray to prevent black spot). Mine was always 3/4 defoliated by the time the first blooms were opening, and it remained largely leafless for the rest of the year. (I’m talking about the years after I quit spraying, which was 2008 onwards) It eventually died from chronic leaflessness. I wouldn’t grow it again.

    When it was growing well (sprayed every ten days) it was a huge, somewhat floppy shrub about 8 feet wide and 6 feet tall. Rebloom was "good for its era".

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks guys. I spray for black spot so I'm not worried about that. It's just that this rose has intrigued me for so long and no one has ever said anything about it. Now that I know a few things about it, I'll be adding it to my garden. I really like white roses (clean and pure) so this should keep me happy. I don't mind putting a little extra care into something worth having. I've been that way in everything my entire life. BUT, if I put extra effort into something and I don't get results, BOOM!!!! It's gone with no regrets.

  • 8 years ago

    I think you will like it Ken. I have mine growing a long a fence. It will put out long canes in our zone. And it will bloom along the long canes if they are horizontal.

  • 8 years ago

    My Frau Karl was grown from cuttings taken at Hollywood Cemetery. She is a lovely thing. I treat her like I do my classic HTs, with adequate fertilizer, water, and fungicide, and she rewards my efforts with beautiful flowers. The photo is her spring bloom of her third year.

    Ken Wilkinson thanked hartwoodroses
  • 8 years ago

    Interesting that you have good winter survival for FKD, Steven. I've tried it three or four times, grafted or own root, and I have yet to get her to survive in my zone 5. Granted I haven't given her my very most protected spot, but I'd have to love her a ton to put her in a high frequency spot. I wonder how well the repeat would be in our cold zones. For a protected spot, it would have to look as gorgeous as Connie's picture at least once a year to justify prime location.

    Cynthia

  • 8 years ago

    I grew this in north Alabama and thought the blooms beautiful. The lack of any scent at all is somewhat disconcerting, though.

  • 8 years ago

    I have had this rose for years here in my Nova Scotia, zone 5b garden. it does have a fair amount of die back in winter. I do not spray and am about 300 feet from the waters edge. This rose has a beautiful shaped flower and the purest white I grow. the bloom does not last long but I still adore it.

  • 8 years ago

    Cynthia, I'm not sure how it'll do this spring considering it died back more this year than the previous winter. Last spring it was awesome.

    I do think it lovely though.

    I suspect that my Mutabilis may have finally given up this year after two winters (this spring would be season three for it too).

    Steven

  • last year

    If you live in zone 5 or colder, i wouldn’t get it, imho. Had Druschki for 3 years; never bloomed because all the 1 yo old wood was dead after Winter (Montana - zone4b) and had to be pruned off in the Spring, EVEN with covering it with 8” of soil and with or without extra insulation over that.. AND that was in a protected area still with lots of sunlight during the growing season. I shovel pruned it last week and potted it and will put it in a dark cold garage this Winter, and we’ll see. But that didn’t work for an eden rose of mine either. It would grow tons during the year, but no wood would survive Winter inside or out, except maybe 4” of it, despite being in the dark at 35-40° degrees all winter in a controlled temp garage, and minimal drips of water once every 3-4 weeks while dormant. Anybody have suggestions, i’d love to hear them, but i’ve quit buying any roses that have to bloom on old wood. Just not feasible here, despite rose cones/ minnesota tip, you name it.
    The problem is almost no vendor lists the winter hardiness of the OLD wood/buds for the next year. Sure, the plant itself will survive in zone 4, but none of the flower buds for next year will.
    Not meaning to gripe, but just trying to save somebody some money if they want to grow roses like these in my zone (you just have to be crazy like me, and keep low expectations).😂 Buck roses for the most part do well here. I love Paloma Blanca, although i’ve had 2 die the first year out of 5 planted. If you can get them through the first Winter, they’re usually good.

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