Take it from a zone 4 gardener snow does not kill plants it protects them. It might weigh them down like they did with your plants Brad but it is warmer under that snow than the air temperature. We have had some very cold winters and I've had plants survive winter with snow cover that are for a zone warmer than us. When I really have to watch is when the snow is gone and the temperature drops. Then I have to cover them or lose them.

Maryl,

Yes, I understand that the modern hybrids of Helebores do face upright. I'm not up on Helebores, but when someone gave me these and they faced down I got to wondering if something was wrong so did some research.

The first daffodil on the link you send certainly looks like mine.

Brad, your double daff could be one of these :Narcissus Dick Wilden or Golden Ducat or Bear's Gold , I guess to nail it down , you need to have the stats for the bulbs . I.e. height , bloom time (ie. beginning, middle or end of season for daffs/narcissus ) just like for daylilies.

As for Hellebores, MaryL , here is a site ( in Canada mind you ) that shows all kinds of Hellebores . I dont think they ship to the USA but if you just want to see some upright flowering Hellebores this link will show you some . So just for your viewing pleasure here is the link:

https://mailorder.phoenixperennials.com/searchresults.asp?Search=hellebores&Submit=

I am sure the plants can be found in the US at other growers

I hadn't heard of an upward facing Hellebore so didn't know to even look for one. When I bought mine decades ago it was because they were reputed to take the harsh conditions they were going to grow in (droughty hot/humid shade). When I saw pictures of their flowers it never occurred to me that they were taking the photos looking upwards into them. Even though the foliage was still nice, imagine my surprise the first time I saw their nodding heads.......Thanks for the Hellebore Update and link. I'll be more aware of what to look for next time. Why I like this forum. You find out more then just daylily information.........Maryl

Tuesday night we got yet more snow, 2 1/2 inches. It then got extremely cold last night and the daffs seem to have said "that's enough, I give up". O well, still have some more spring flowers coming: grape hyacinth, English blue bells, a few tulips [if they will bloom after all this], Star of Bethlehem, possibly some later daffs and a few others that I don't even know their names. And of course that leads to Spiderwort, & Irises, then Oriental Lilies, and then.......

You may be sorry that you got Star of Bethlehem. That stuff takes over ! If you thought violets were bad ........Star of Bethlehem has them beat hands down . Plant where you dont care if it increases like crazy because if you dont , it will always be a bane in your garden. ......just ask me !

maybe it isn't Star of Bethlehem. There is only a tiny patch and it has been that way for years. The previous owner planted them. That was only my guess at what it is. Here's a photo: