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Succulents- leaves curling

8 years ago

Hello, I am new to caring for succulents. I just got my firsts a few days ago and I have them in cactus soil, a planter with holes, and I haven’t watered them because I’ve read not to overwater unless the souls is dry which it is not yet. Also, I have been putting my succulents outside during the day in indirect sunlight and taking them inside at night because it gets cold and we have ferrell cats who like to destroy any plant I leave outside at night.


But this morning, I put them outside in a place I thought was safe, went to work, and when I came back home and found them in direct sunlight so I fear some got a little sunburnt.. I also noticed on my Vera Higgins that a couple lower bottom leaves are curled up and inward and I am wondering if that is due to me accidentally leaving them out in the sun or because they need water?



Also if you can give me any tips, or will be greatly appreciated! Thank you.

Comments (30)

  • 8 years ago
    They look perfectly content to me.
  • 8 years ago

    Agree with Grace.

    I would only make sure that plants are acclimatized to sunlight. And add coarse perlite to that soil for better drainage. You didn't indicate where you are - if it is still cooler, make sure they are not in wet soil.

    Oldest leaves usually dry up and fall off. That is normal, but should not be too many at the same time (on same plant).

  • 8 years ago
    Thank you for your feedback, Grace and Rita! Rita: I am in California and i do not believe they are in wet soil. And thank you so much for your advice!
  • 8 years ago
    So sorry, Rina. I meant to put an “n” for your name and did not check before I posted.
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    Marlene

    NP :)

    I didn't know how dry or wet your climate is in general, obviously if hot and dry - soil will dry up much faster. Soils that have lots of peat in it could easily stay too wet for too long, or could become hydrophobic if kept too dry for too long. Adding lots of perlite or pumice helps drainage.

  • 8 years ago
    Okay, I will definitely do that, do I just mix the perlite and pumice in the soil they’re in?
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    Marlene

    You don't need to add both, either perlite or pumice will do - whatever you can get easily. What kind of soil is it? Ingredients should be mixed well rather than layered.

    (ps: fixed few spelling mistakes and added a bit to my previous post :)

  • 8 years ago
    I am using this mix that I found at Home Depot. I added a couple pictures of the planter I’m using. The planter has 2 holes towards the end, I should drill another hole in the middle.
  • 8 years ago
    Rina: I posted a photo of my soil in the comment above in my reply to Greenclaws, about how much perlite should I mix in in the planter I have?
  • 8 years ago

    I dont know about a lot of growers, but out of the more experienced, try adding a lot of grit and tiny pebbles to your soil, not just perlite. It should look really coarse. Best to be safe.

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    Marlene

    Ido not see photo of your soil except the original photo. 50/50 is what many ppl use, and some use even more than half of perlite.

    I use very 'gritty', inorganic mix that I make myself from grit, coarse perlite (those two ingredients in approx. equal amounts) and small amount of turface. That is similar what milevskistefan is suggesting. BUT that is not 'the only' kind of mix one can use: as long as it is fast draining, it will work. Mix like that will allow you to water plant thoroughly when it needs to be, without retaining too much water for too long (that is what fine, peaty soils do).

    There are few further questions from Gill (greenclavw) that you may want to answer :)

  • 8 years ago
    Rina: That is strange you cannot see my pictures to Greenclaws. Here are the attachments again. Did Greenclaws comment again after her 1st comment? I cannot see anything else. Also, thank you so much for your advice! I will make sure to drop by the store again today for some pertile. Also, what kind of grit do suggest to use?
  • 8 years ago
    Brown spots on Jade
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  • 8 years ago
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    Those spots look like oedema I mentioned - there isn't that much. Couple of leaves actually split and scabbed over. Proper watering should take care of that.

    First, I would suggest potting mix with lots of sifted perlite added. Greenclaws already suggested that mix in previous post. That would be very easy, inexpensive and fast way of increasing drainage. I don't know what soil you used - not quite sure, but it looks like there is sand in it. There are also bits of some organic material visible, I can't tell if bark or sapwood. PS: I just noticed you mentioned it is Cactus & Succulent soil; it still need improving. Not your fault, but these bagged soils are sold as well draining and most of the times are not...

    Leave those leaves on, damage is really minimal. They will get old and naturally dry up and fall of; in the meantime, they help to produce food for the plant. Oedema will not spread (it is not a disease but disorder); but unless there are some improvements, it will continue to happen. So make potting mix well draining and make sure any container used has drainage hole(s) - again, Greenclaws already asked about them. Plants need much better light - there is too much light green color on the leaves, indicating not enough light. Good air circulation is important too.

    Btw, I do not know where you got the label from, but it isn't 'mini-jade' . The name itself is misleading since it is used for few different plants and is just common name. Your plants are Crassula ovata - typical jade plant. They should all grow into nice plants if some small changes are made.

  • 8 years ago

    Not quite sure of the purpose of the pic, but if that’s the one you have included to illustrate the soil, then I’m sorry to say, it’s wrong in many ways for those Crassulas....and your other plants as we have already stated....and those all important drainage holes, do they exist? We’re still in the dark about those.

    Gill

  • 8 years ago
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    Gill

    Marlene asked me about jades having some spots in pm and I asked her to post photos. Sorry for the confusion :)!

    I also added bit more info about soil - proper mix to my last post.

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    Rina and Gill: I am so sorry, I am uncertain of why you cannot see the photos I commented yesterday of the soil I used, the planter, and the holes in the planter. Here is a screenshot of my comment 23 hours ago so you can see that i did indeed post them, and did not intend to leave you in the dark.

    Yesterday, I did take your advice and I mixed a lot of perlite in the soil and transferred each plant into their own little individual pots (with a draining hole). I do not have a current picture of how the soil looks like at the moment but I will post a picture as soon as I get home tonight.

    Rina: they’ve been in indirect sunlight during the day, shall I move them into direct sunlight from now on?

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    Marlene

    That never showed on here - I do not know what is the reason; sometimes it is houzz, other times how you post. IIRC, some ppl have problems if using apps. I am 'old fashion' and never use phone, just a laptop. So I do not know how posting from phone works. I rather see photos (and the text) on proper screen, and at the time I want to...

    The bag you are showing is something I never use, so I can't comment. I think others that do use it, will.

    I like very gritty mix described in my post just above your photo of jades. Grit is chicken grit, that I buy from farm supply store for just about $10/50lb. In US, I think many ppl use similar/same grit sold under name MannaPro (-as shown here- )

    If you just repotted plants and they were in low light, wait another day or two and then start moving them gradually into better and better light.

    Make sure they don't get overwatered; but watered well when needed. Use a bamboo skewer or chopstick. Insert deep into pot (3/4 deep) for few minutes. Pull it out; if completely dray, time to water. If it feels damp/cold, there is till enough moisture and wait bit longer to water.

  • 8 years ago
    Here is a photo of some of the succulents in the soil with the perlite. Also, thank you so much Rina for all your help! I am hoping the perlite and the extra sun will help them.
  • 8 years ago

    Marlene, if you intended to post more photos, they did not go through.

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  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for letting me know, Laticuada! I posted it again.

  • 8 years ago

    Looking real good!

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    Marlene

    That looks much better.

    I don't know if you read what I said about the label you have for jades...? (post right after your jades photo). It is incorrect.

  • 8 years ago
    Rina: Yes I did, I will change it, the store where I bought them came with the label “mini jade” so I went with it but thank you for pointing it out.
  • 8 years ago

    If I may chime in, my Vera Higgins plants are all dormant right now indoors in CT. Any time I try to give them a drink, their lower leaves do what yours are.

    I literally threw all of my dormant plants (mostly echeveria and graptos and pachys) into planters in 50-60% perlite and put them in the spare bedroom so I'd stop being tempted to water them.

    You have a nice collection started! It takes some trial and error to figure out which plants need the same water and light requirements for successful long term potting, but you're already getting quite sound advice in this thread.. there are a lot of knowledgeable and helpful people around!