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8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

(reposted from Name that Rose AND I'm having issues getting the pictures uploaded.)


Hello! Any ideas on this pretty mystery? It was supposed to be a Westerland. ;-)


I’m thinking it is still a climber. It is definitely thornless. We bought it early last summer as a band, and it is currently in a 4 gallon nursery pot.


Last fall it had two flowers, but they were more of a mauve/dark lavender color. Based on the flowers I guessed maybe Aloha, but certainly not Westerland. lol



Fast forward... it is definitely what I’d call a deep pink this spring. I thought I remembered a nice fragrance with the flowers last fall, but I’m not able to detect any fragrance with these spring flowers.


As it ages Al and I are still not able to detect a fragrance, but the color is definitely changing to more of a mauve-ish pink.



We have a great spot for a climber that would like a little bit of shade. Wondering if that spot might be a good home for this rose?

Thanks!

Shannon :-)

Comments (15)

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Vapor. I’ve had all kinds of problems with Houzz today. :-( I’ll try to fix it in the morning.

    When the buds opened this spring I went back to HMF and realized Aloha didn’t match. Maybe America Beauty? Or maybe it isn’t a climber? I did notice a slight fragrance today on the most open bloom. It’s definitely not fruity. Maybe anise? I’m enjoying the color difference, lighter and darker, on the tops and bottoms of the petals as it ages. I’ll take another picture of it in the morning.

    We bought it from Rogue Valley.

    I really appreciate your help. :-) It is growing so fast in the 4 gallon pot i feel like I really need to figure out a more permanent home for it.

  • 8 years ago

    Grrr. Can't blame Houzz fully. Obviously there's some operator error as I just deleted the comment I posted with all the pictures. UGH! I'm trying to fix the multiple posts, but making more of a mess. :face palm:

    re-re-reposting the pictures now...

  • 8 years ago
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    Hilarious! I'm going to look this up in the Rogue Valley catalog. It shouldn't be too hard to find there lavender roses. It has the look of one of The Veranda roses or lavender crush, Plum Perfect or even violets Pride but I'm not too familiar with the lavender roses.

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you Vaporvac! :-) I’ve been running in circles a bit the last few days. Among other things I found termites swarming in the laundry room on Friday... that’s been fun. -_- In fairness everything is fine. Could be worse. And I just pretty much keep my To Do list like an encyclopedia written by squirrels and then life happens. My own fault.

    Apparently my laptop and phone aren’t communicating. I have pictures on the phone that the laptop doesn’t see. So I’m loading everything from my phone now. Grr again.

  • 8 years ago

    Hi Shannon! Definitely agree with VV about it not being Aloha. Violet's Pride seems to have a darker center. While it hasn't much fragrance here, I don't think it's anise at all, thank goodness!

    So maybe that rules out two?

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked lavenderlacezone8
  • 8 years ago

    This morning:

    Last week/weekend:

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you Lavenderlace. :-) Yep, I didn't really care for the fragrance I finally did find and I'm not sure if it was anise. I'm learning I tend to prefer the fruity, tea, old rose fragrances, but don't mind most of them. This particular one is just frustrating me more than anything. lol

    If it helps for a color comparison with photos taken by my phone, here is an Heirloom I just bought at Lowes:

    And below are our Twilight Zone and Lavender Veranda. They are pictures with the same phone from last year, but since purples seem to photograph weird I thought the comparison colors might help?

  • 8 years ago
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    Thanks! I actually thought that one of those pictures reminded me of Heirloom until you mentioned the fragrance. My first Heirlooms smelled like bug spray and are now very nice!

    I think that it's too dark but are the edges frilly and the stems thick and thornless like Memorial Day? Some of my first ones were dark at first and had that white stripe. Maybe a relative?

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked lavenderlacezone8
  • 8 years ago

    It does kind of remind me of Memorial Day except all those that I've seen smelled fantastic and very strong. I didn't realize purples photographed like Reds... Never true.

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 8 years ago

    There really isn’t any white on the blooms. I think the one picture just looks that way because of how the sunlight is hitting it.

    This Heirloom smells fantastic! It’s been recommended to me before, but I always thought it was a little too pink for my taste (from pictures). Then I saw and smelled this one in Lowes...

    It’s a bit more purple than this picture shows.

    The others in the 4 gallon pots pictured are our newest babies from Roses Unlimited. They arrived in gallon pots, but the UPS truck was in an accident... long story. Totally NOT Roses Unlimited’s fault. I up potted them from the 1 gallons to 4 as soon as they got here and they seem to be just fine.

    I’ll run get you a picture of the Mystery’s stems. I’m on a gardening water break. ;-) brb

  • 8 years ago

    I wouldn’t say the stems are thick?

    They do have this tiny bit of trying-to-be-thorns right under each flower. Otherwise nada.

    Here’s a view from the base of the plant up, and then other pic showing how I have it staked to support the weight of the flower, etc..

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  • 8 years ago

    OK, I'm officially stumped!

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked lavenderlacezone8
  • 8 years ago

    So I am assuming you got this from Rogue Valley Roses? Correct? Have you sent them pics to see what they think it could be? It looks to me an awful lot like the ht SHI-UN, but hard to say. I'd have to check mine to see if it's thornless, and I don't remember what the scent is like. It also looks a little like PLUM PERFECT. I don't have that one, but it looks like some of the pics of PP on HMF. But if it came from RVR, they don't list either of these roses.

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked bethnorcal9
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