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Need advice on statement-making countertops

8 years ago

Hi Houzz community,


Hubby & I are embarking on our first major kitchen remodel together and are taking out a kitchen wall to create a large island with seating and induction cooktop in it. We are very excited about the island as the hub of our home. And when we went to the granite yard, we realized that we want to buck the white & marble trend (although we found some blue marbles would be a choice if we weren't such big cooks) and get a unique stone for the island, and possibly use the same stone on the backsplash behind our sink. Our thought is to use a complimentary honed white or black granite on the perimeter countertop and either black or wood toned (walnut is my preference) cabinets on the island, and white cabinets on the perimeter.


It isn't easy to find pictures of kitchens with unique stone countertops but I'm curious to hear from anyone who chose a unique stone. Did you get tired of the pattern? Any design advice if we go unique on the countertops. Three of our stones in the running are below.


Thanks in advance for the voices of experience on this forum--and sorry for the so-so photos.





Comments (55)

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Just remember that the island will become a part of the decor in the open and adjacent room..........and yes,;;;;;your ventilation needs to be considered as well. Also, that a very showy stone in a home "not up to it"...is usually not a great idea. Make certain your is. Up to it.

    All kitchens, ( all rooms in fact) are the sums of different elements making a cohesive and beautiful whole. One star in a show is plenty, and any star needs just a supporting cast. (I'd skip your middle photo.....)

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks so much for the replies!! I love #1 & 3 and hubbs likes 2. I'll check out Patagonia. I haven't seen it around here.

    Interesting how many care if the range is in the island. Our GC made a passionate arguement for putting the sink there, but I don't like the visual hole of a sink in the island, nor a faucet sprouting out of the middle of a flat pane of stone. Or having to do dirty dishes in the party zone. :) We are going with an induction cooktop which doesn't require a hood, but we'll put one in that is higher than standard to minimize the visual impact. I'm happier with this approach.
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    You think it is better to have heat and food spatter/ sauteing in the "party zone?" The GC made the argument, because so many have tried, and loathed the cook on an island . Many faucets are quite beautiful, and ranges of the pro variety a focal point. But to each his own.

  • 8 years ago

    My cooktop is on the island with a downdraft. Has not been a problem for me. I like one and three.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm not a fan of busy hard materials. I'm fickle in nature and "I love it" at the stone yard to "I now hate it" the week after it's installed would be my fear. I would much rather use boring -ish hard elements that I will never 'love' nor 'hate' but....'like'. I would rather pick soft elements such as rugs, pillows, art, blankets that I can easily change out after the 'love' dies. There is enough going on in my kitchen with life...I don't need it in my counter top. That's me. You do you. :)

  • 8 years ago
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    We are going with an induction cooktop which doesn't require a hood

    That is 100% incorrect. Where did you get that idea? While an induction cooktop won't have the minor emissions that a gas cooktop has from the gas itself, it will have the exact same grease and smoke from cooking that a gas cooktop has.

    If you are cooking a steak on an induction cooktop, do you think it will splatter and smoke less than it would on a gas cooktop? How about fish? Bacon? The hood is to exhaust the smoke and grease from cooking, regardless of the source of the heat.

    Your idea of people sitting around the cooktop in the island is a fantasy from TV shows and magazines, and doesn't take into account that they may be splattered by the cooking, or inhaling smoke, or generally being in the cook's way. Keep in mind that when you are cooking, you are looking down at your pots and pans, not gazing at your guests. A cooking show chef once said it took her weeks to train to be able to cook while looking up at the camera for the show.

    A better choice would be to dedicate the island for prep. That way, people can comfortably sit at the island, and even help you prep if you want, and generally be more social than cooking in front of them. The beauty of your stone will be front and center.

    If you are going for a gorgeous stone island, why would you want it to have a cooktop in it to be splattered on, and if you are concerned about a sink interrupting the flow, the cooktop will interrupt it a lot more.

    As to a faucet and sink in the island, some people look at faucets as jewelry for the kitchen. There are some beautiful faucets out there, and their placement on the island will be like adding gleaming earrings to a beautiful dress.

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks for commenting Frida June. The codes where we live do not require a hood over and induction cook top. However we are going to put a hood in for exactly the reasons you mention.
  • 8 years ago

    I got interrupted while I was typing, and finished my post a few minutes later, and added more comments to it about hoods over islands.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Where did you get the idea an induction stove does not require ventilation. They still create smells , splatters andsteam all of which needs ventilation. As for the counter IMO you either have a different counter on the island and all the same color cabinets or you have all the same counter and different color for the island cabinets but not both. As for which stone I would need to see your layout the rest of your home befors making a comment on that.I never put a cooktop in an island unless there are no outside to ventilate properly.BTW your GC should have nothing to do with your kitchen design that should have involved a kitchen designer from the beginning.

  • 8 years ago

    I would think a cooktop on your island would cause an even bigger visual black hole, detracting from a beautiful, statement-making stone than a sink cut out (especially if it’s just a small prep sink)

  • 8 years ago

    As I understand it, the question is, do you like a countertop with a wow factor? Yes. I love the idea of a statement making countertop. I love the second one and I see you say that's not your favorite. Sorry. If the house is big enough, the awesome granite will look fantastic.

    Put your cooktop wherever you want it.

  • 8 years ago
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    Spending a fortune on a showy upgraded counter and not a dime on professional design advice? Contractors do not design. Amateurs shouldn’t design.

    Get a better layout first. Worry about finish materials after the important things have been addressed. Like workflow. It’s much better to spend 10K on adding a window, lighting, and moving some plumbing, if that makes the kitchen work harder and more efficiently. Not a counter on top of a poor layout.

    Finishes come and go. Good design is the backbone to the finishes likevhe counter actually being noticed rather than the bad design. Good design is invisible. Things work how they should. Bad design shouts and bangs your shins. What it usually shouts is “someone spent lot of money on the wrong things.”

  • 8 years ago
    Go with the wow factor. Our kitchen is medium-sized and is open to other spaces so, like you, we decided to replace the idea of white marble with a more statement piece. Yes, it’s a love it or hate it slab. But WE love it and have used it as decor in our kitchen. My perimeter counter is honed black granite. Our style is very transitional. And although I’ve had it installed for just five months now, I have zero regrets! Also, we added a prep sink which I love, but no stove! Keep it a party zone! Good luck on your decision!
  • 8 years ago

    As Jan said, everything must "go together". I had my heart set on a specific porcelain tile. Sample tile in hand, I selected the only paint cabinet color that looked good with the flooring...then selected the only granite that "looked right". The cabinet color & granite would not have been my first...or fourth choice but, they were the only options that worked with the tile. Conclusion, select your "must have" first and build around it. Please don't put your cooktop in the island...the concept just does not work, for SO many reasons. And, why would you interrupt an expanse of gorgeous stone with a "hole"?


  • 8 years ago

    My stone is a wow factor. I used the same stone on both the island and the perimeter with the island in a different color. I would not do the island and perimeter different colors and do different counters on the island and perimeter. Too much.

    Here is my kitchen

    Note, my cleanup sink is on my island. It doesn't detract from my stone or my counter.

    Interesting how many care if the range is in the island. Our GC made a passionate arguement for putting the sink there, but I don't like the visual hole of a sink in the island, nor a faucet sprouting out of the middle of a flat pane of stone.

    Having a hood spouting from the top and a cooktop is worse. Plus we spend the majority of our time prepping and only 10% actually cooking meals, so why would you want your back to your guests for the majority of the time? I'm sorry but you have it backwards.

    While GC's are not normally KD's, in this case, he/she is correct.

    nor a faucet sprouting out of the middle of a flat pane of stone.

    I like to think my faucet adds to the overall look and it doesn't detract.

    Or having to do dirty dishes in the party zone. :)

    So put your prep sink in the island and put a cleanup sink elsewhere which is actually more common than what I did. I reversed the common idea of the prep sink on the island because we are aging in place and prepping along the perimeter works better for our workflow.

    We are going with an induction cooktop which doesn't require a hood, but we'll put one in that is higher than standard to minimize the visual impact. I'm happier with this approach.

    If you put it higher than standard, then all you're doing is throwing your money away. There is a reason hoods are a certain height from the cooktop. And while you might not need a hood for code, I'd hate to see what your ceilings, cabinets, etc look like after a year or two if you don't have proper hood capture.

  • 8 years ago
    Hi Particia. Thanks for your comments. I'm not asking for opinions on which stone, only looking for feedback from those who choose a unique stone and if they were happy with that choice years later. I just included pics as this might help provide context.

    Somehow our choice of cooking surface placement has taken over my initial request. I appreciate the strong opinions. We entertain enough, and our current range is on the wall we are going to take out-- and it's placement puts it right in the midst of our kitchen entertainment space. Everyone is in the work triangle. Its bonkers. Despite this less than optimal placement, somehow we've never splattered or burned anyone--although guests often accidentally turn on our oven as the digital controls are touchy. We rarely cook while entertaining, so I thought we might create a decorative cover for the cooktop, just to protect the glass. I have two girlfriends with cooktops in their island and I prefer that look and function to that of a sink in the island--especially now that islands are all in one plane. Different strokes. :)

    Our GC firm has a track record of putting together wonderful kitchens in multimillion dollar beach houses and upscale homes. This isn't us, but we live in a nice enough neighborhood.
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    "Somehow our choice of cooking surface placement has taken over my initial request."


    That happens a lot here. On another thread a lady asked about her cabinet doors and I had to tell her that her floor underlayment wasn't installed per manufacturer's specifications. Can't help myself. It's like asking me to watch you let your kids play near the expressway.

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks so much auntthelma, cmbmesa and cpartist! especially the photos cmbmesa & cpartist! so helpful!

    We have a kitchen design and layout that will greatly enhance our kitchen, not sure why there was an assumption that we do not. By not choosing marble, we obviously aren't a slave to trends, but, to cmbmesa's comments, we know our granite will dictate every other material choice.

    Cpartist, thanks for your thoughtful reply and pic. very nice. Our optimal layout doesn't well accommodate the main sink and cooktop on the perimeter--otherwise I'd do that. We never fry, most of our cooking is steam based or boiling water. Our current hood rarely gets a workout--typically on fish or when we pull bacon out of the oven.
  • 8 years ago
    Interesting analogy Joseph. I do hope this offense isn't really viewed quite in the same league.
  • 8 years ago

    I like all of your choices, but especially 1 & 2. I agree with above comments if the kitchen and layout of common areas can support it, go for it! It’s nice to see something different.

  • 8 years ago
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    I’d be concerned that combining one of those countertops with walnut cabinets will be too busy. In my opinion, walnut can have a lot of movement. If you were going to doing a flat color cabinet like cpartist did, it might be a different story. Given that you want to use two cabinet colors and two countertop colors, with one being bold, I’d be fearful the whole kitchen might look too busy and dated. Also, walnut will fade and can turn almost blonde in color, so be prepared for that possibility as well.

    I have an induction cooktop and a sink on my island, but i did not have a choice, given the kitchen layout. The island is big enough that splattering of guests is not an issue, but since my island is walnut, I am hyperviligant when using the sink or cooktop. I also rarely prepare meals at home, so it’s not really an issue for me anyway.

    Elizabeth Keough thanked rockybird
  • 8 years ago

    I like the look of a bold granite island, but only you will know if you will love it 10+ years from now. My only suggestion would be to keep all your cabinets the same if you choose a bold granite island and coordinating perimeter counters so that your kitchen looks more cohesive and the island top can really be the star.

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks so much for weighing in. So walnut is out (I think I knew that--and my GC firm advised as much. In the end, it's a love I can give up.) And one cabinet color or one granite color, not both. Got it! ;)
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I love cpartist's kitchen countertops! They are absolutely stunning. And they work in her house. She's kept everything else quite simple.

    Really busy, "statement-making" countertops usually work best in a humongous kitchen with an island the size of a landing strip for a small plane. In a typical kitchen, they can look very busy. One is far more likely to tire of such, as well.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you Anglo.

    Anglo my island isn't humongous by any stretch. It's 82" wide x 42" deep. True it's not tiny but it's what I consider right sized. Can seat 3 people.

  • 8 years ago

    Perhaps there is a layout that has neither the cooktop nor the sink on the island, and would let a statement stone make an actual statement.

  • 8 years ago
    thanks Sophie. based on the passionate feedback from many, I'm going to ask exactly this question. it is worth exploring not messing with nature's art. ;)
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    That is what a pro KD is for. And worth every penny!

  • 8 years ago
    I will weigh in with neither a vote of yes or no on having the range in the island but my experience. We had our downdraft cooktop and oven in the island. Yes, I cooked there ALL THE TIME (I homeschool and I’m essentially a short order cook for my kids) and I did prep on the island as well. It worked, but I always felt there was a big mess on my island. Splatter from cooking, dishes, cooking utensils, etc make for a really big mess. We have recently gutted the kitchen and started over. We have a beautiful slab of Florida wave which has gorgeous movement. I have chosen to take my range out of the island and replace it with a sink. I hope this will make my kitchen feel and look less cluttered by having the cooktop on the wall. I don’t think I’ll mind having my back to my kids while I cook if I can turn around to a cleaner island and bar area when I sit to eat with them. Again, not a vote for or against but just my experience. Love all of your slab choices. I especially like the 1st.
    Elizabeth Keough thanked Raina S
  • 8 years ago
    Raina! where is my love button? thank you for sharing your experience. this is so very helpful. I tried to find Florida Wave (as this could be fitting as its where we live), but no luck. I hope your new kitchen and layout bring you much joy!
  • 8 years ago

    Hi Elizabeth K,

    I say go for something beautiful that you will enjoy. I am not a fan of cookstops on a peninsula or island but only you know if that would work for you. meanwhile here are some images.. I have been collecting them because I am looking for a bit of drama with my stone too.



    Typhoon Bordeaux Granite with Full Backsplash · More Info

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    Russian Hill - John Maniscalco Architecture · More Info

    Kashmir Gold Granite in an log cabin in Owings, MD · More Info

    Traditional Kitchen · More Info

    La Grange Kitchen · More Info

    Talbots Lane Kitchen · More Info

    Marin Elegance · More Info

    highland park · More Info

    Classic and Timeless Kitchen · More Info

    Elizabeth Keough thanked Boxerpal
  • 8 years ago

    I am surprised so many people have an issue with island cooktops. I cook and entertain a lot. I love to set up buffet style on my island and keep soup snd gravy and such warming on my cooktop. I have a Dacor downdraft and it works great. I am from New Orleans originally so a lot of frying going on but this has not been an issue. My island is large though.

    Elizabeth Keough thanked saratogaswizzlestick
  • 8 years ago

    Just want to add I did have a kitchen designer review my plans and she significantly improved the look and functionality of my kitchen and it actually ended up costing less after her modifications. The cabinet company had a designer but it is well worth getting an independent designer to review.

    Elizabeth Keough thanked saratogaswizzlestick
  • 8 years ago

    Boxerpal - thanks so much for sharing the inspiring photos. This is really helpful to see these beautiful stones in a lovely setting. I'm convinced that the piece of nature's art we love today, we'll love in our kichen for a long time. I wish you well in your decisions. So many beautiful stones out there!

  • 8 years ago

    saratogaswizzlestick - Thank you for your comments. We'll meet again with our team now that our association approved some work that may happen with the remodel. It is nice to hear from someone that the execution of the cooktop isn't the worst idea in the world. I am trying to like the look of the sink in the island, but I just don't. Clearly, I'm in the minority--but that's never bothered me before. Thank you for a bit of validation. (Darn social media.) :)

    Good thought on the kitchen designer. Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • 8 years ago

    When we built our house I LOVED the Verde Labrador granite (nothing unique really, but nice colors and sparkle). 13 years later, we replaced it with a plain silestone to match our changing tastes. Point being is you may grow tired of ANYTHING you choose, so get what you love and enjoy it for what it is. If the resale value or longevity factor is a concern for you, temper your choice a bit.

    If you can have no sink or cooktop on the island, that would be ideal! I have the sink and while the layout works and I can wash dishes and chat with people, it is always wet on my counter. I do have a sleek one-piece, pull-out-spray faucet which is a very minimal distraction. Best of luck!

    Elizabeth Keough thanked mnmamax3
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for sharing your experience mnmamax3. :)

  • 8 years ago

    I love statement pieces for islands! So unique and beautiful!

    Elizabeth Keough thanked Mrs. Gopher #BringBackSophie
  • 8 years ago

    Catt Combs that is beautiful!

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you!

  • 8 years ago

    cat, that is stunning.

  • 8 years ago

    I'll echo Sophie's comment, of letting the statement stone, be the statement; have you gotten layout advice, on whether you can get the cooktop off the island? Functionally, its not ideal, for ventilation and related issues others have mentioned. My previous layout had the cooktop in a peninsula with bar, so I know it felt dysfunctional to me- and always grimy. It also did not make the peninsula a friendly place to hang out, so the bar space ended up wasted space.

    Started over with completely new layout. I now have a 105 x 55 island, no cooktop, with a main sink and bar sink on the perimeters. It really is the social hub of the kitchen now, we definitely notice family and friends want to congregate there more. Having a beautiful stone is a part of drawing people in. I loved my dramatic stone the day I saw it, and I'm far from tiring of it. Brings me joy every time I walk in the room. But from a functional point of view, I love being able to really spread out projects, or lay out a big buffet spread, without a sink or cooktop getting in the way. You'll have to wait a bit for a picture, right now its functioning as a giant project table and you can't see the statement at all :)

  • 8 years ago
    catacombs, that is a statement piece. living the ombre feel. thanks so much for sharing!!
  • 8 years ago
    oneridgeoff, looking forward to pics. our island will be quite large as well...guests will have to go out of their way to get in the hot zone. I'm looking forward to the expanse to use for projects.

    We will talk with the team about any option to move cooktop and sink to the perimeter, but as we planned 2 pier towers, I'm not optimistic it will work without some other sacrifice. Since no one knows our layout, our cooking habits, our lifestyle, our neighborhood or our goals, I take all unsolicited advice beyond what I asked with a few grains of salt. :)
  • 8 years ago
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    I am not putting a sink or cooktop in my island, but just a thought on your aversion to sinks in the island. Have you looked at any of the composite sinks (like Silgranite) where you can get a sink color that compliments your stone? I think they can blend much better than stainless steel and make the sink “jump out” at you less. It can look less like a hole in the stone because the colors all flow better, imo, no matter where you put your sink.

    Elizabeth Keough thanked kazmom
  • 8 years ago
    3littlelights13! thank you so much for sharing your experience. I'm planning to achieve a similar outcome with our kitchen. We want the island to be the hub of all activities and an induction cooktop in island rather than the sink better suits our kitchen our lifestyle and our aesthetics. Thank you for a bit of validation. and congratulations on your very successful kitchen.Yay!

    The comments on this thread have bolstered our confidence. Now it's about deciding on a stone and if we use it as backsplash too (or if that busts the budget.) We have neutral counter and flooring choices that complement each stone selection. Exciting!
  • 8 years ago
    We built a house and chose a (Titanium) granite that looked like the universe, the Milky Way. It was mesmerizing. We kept the cabinets dark and backsplash light and neutral. The island was quite large, a modified pie slice (w/o the pointed end, it was squared off for the sink) and it was fun.

    Hence my preference is #2.

    For comparison, we had to move and now have boring builders grade granite. it makes a difference on the drcir and how I enjoy (or not) enjoy the kitchen.

    Go big! Have fun.

    I'm sure your salt shaker is full with all the salty advice. How they keep clients is beyond me. I've learned how to say 'bless your heart thank you' more than I've cared to. (and I'm not from the south..lol)
    Elizabeth Keough thanked Jen K (7b, 8a)
  • 8 years ago

    Jen K! Love you. If you were in the neighborhood, I'd invite you over for some sweet tea! :) Thanks for sharing your perspective!

  • 8 years ago

    strob06, this is a good thought. I honestly haven't looked at sinks in depth yet beyond flagging a few standouts on Houzz. I have this on my list of to dos this weekend.