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Question about Shade Cloth

So after roasting so many plants last summer, this year I decided I wanted some kind of shade structure. My BF built me something that will work but we chose a “sun screen fabric” at Lowe’s sold by the roll where you can cut and buy.

It seems to be the rolled version of the package shown below. It was available in black, brown, green or tan, and I chose tan. It was also significantly thinner and had more “holes” than the other colors.

I didn’t think much of it before but does anyone know if this is now blocking too much sun? I plan to bring everything under this structure when it gets ridiculously hot soon, but the spot gets filtered morning sun from sunrise to about 9am, and then full on overhead sun from then to 12:30 right now when it starts going over the house. They were all doing fine because it’s remained 90 or below lately, sometimes even barely creeping over 70 (!), but now I’m wondering if it’s too little sun.

When the package say it provides “75% more shade,” does this mean I’m blocking 75% of light? I know from the tomato and pepper forums etc. that others mention “20% shade cloth” or “40%,” etc. but surely this isn’t 75%? Or is it???

(Cross-posting to succulents & tomatoes.)

Comments (15)

  • 8 years ago

    Think this is too blocking for cacti- something more open is used for cacti. Square mesh is often used. While growth is almost similar, cacti in full sun are usually spinier(longer and denser) than shade cloth counterparts.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Grace

    I wonder about this statement: “75% more shade,” More comparing to what? This seems to be typical advertising statement - but maybe I am wrong. I never bought shade cloth, so maybe shouldn't comment... Is the photo you posted of exactly what you bought or a product sold in GH/farm supply store? Is there any other info on the package? Is there any chance of comparing this product to those sold in GH supply stores? If correct, do you think you need as much as 75%? I see that is also "Lowers temperatures up to 15*F" - is that what you want? (I understand it that it gets very hot where you are).

  • 8 years ago

    I am new to all this, but what I would do is keep an eye on the plants for etiolation during the next few weeks. If any are colored up they may go greener. If it’s facing east or west, does it get morning or late day sun? In the fall and winter it might get more sun since the sun is lower. The cactus could probably take quite a few hours of full sun but they look small so probably not all day.

    I’m in zone 10a and had my collection in full sun for a couple years ago. Nothing fried but it was tough on them. Then I put up a free-standing umbrella so they get some shade each day. If it’s gloomy like the last couple weeks, I put the umbrella down.

    What a beautiful display of your plants! The benches are a pretty color, nice variety of pots and plants. Spectacular!!

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I live on Spain´s Mediterranean coast - we have hot dry summers - and my Mexican desert cacti love it here - they all live outdoors and seem to enjoy the sun - except Obregonia denegrii, which definitely likes a bit of shade. I put it behind some of the bigger pots, but don´t use any shade cloth of any kind. The rest enjoy the sun, although I would say that the Mediterranean sun is not quite as fierce as yours in Nevada, Grace. But then, those growing in the fierce sun in habitat in their native Mexico don´t have any shade cloth.

  • 8 years ago

    SpanishFly, las vegas is sunnier and hotter that anything here in europe. While it is a native habitat for cacti(ferocactus, opuntia, echinocereus) and yucca and agave, bear in mind its not suitable for some plants, especially common succulents(echeveria, sempervivum, schlumbergera etc). The temps go higher as well( average 5 C' than andaluzia i believe ). Not that id use it for all plants, but for stuff that can get sunburned(new, rotated, sunburn prone, young)./

  • 8 years ago
    Stefan, arrgghh — I was afraid of that. So far, I don’t see anything really different except that the red rims on some plants have toned down a bit, but it’s only been two weeks.

    Thanks, will keep an eye on them.
  • 8 years ago
    Rina — cooling down 15 degrees would be an awesome plus. And it actually works. I don’t know if it’s exactly 15 degrees cooler but our sun is SO HOT even when temps are mild, and under this canopy, it feels like a significant improvement. Come 115+, I suspect that could make a big difference. That is, if I don’t ruin the plants in the meantime by basically growing them in the dark, haha!
  • 8 years ago
    Thanks, Socks!

    Yeah, in SoCal and the Bay Area, the sun was just different even when hitting 100. I can’t explain it—ours is like....FIRE. Haha. I moved here from the East Bay where it’s not necessarily cold, but the succulents I brought roasted in a day or two like I put it in a broiler set to 550.

    This area is only morning sun to 12:30 with early morning filtered though the leaves of a tree (shown). I have other areas where I could move this bench (my BF made it for me!) — it was in a spot adjacent to said tree that got tons of sun over winter but now that the sun is higher, only gets hits for two hours of full sun. Or the south end of my yard — more light, but I can’t see the area from my patio.

    First world problems.,
  • 8 years ago
    SpanishFly, I’m sure they love it there. It’s like our San Diego weather!

    Here, we are talking 48C (and often higher) in summer. Granted it is often at 4% humidity, so it’s bearable in the shade to some degree, but it is hot as hell. Like true cacti start begging for water!
  • 8 years ago

    Cant say that i know how you feel, here the hottest weve had was 42+ C". It was like being in an oven. But we tend to have high humidity which makes it worse, especially if its >35 C".

  • 8 years ago

    I'm with Rina here. 75 percent more shade than what, exactly? I use the same shade material in my pergola, but for myself, not my plants--so I can park myself under it with my laptop. I do have plants under that much shade though---an orchid and a hoya which are both under-story tropical jungle plants. At noon, it's not enough shade (also for me, not my plants, heh).

    That much shade will etiolate plants like adeniums, for sure.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Not as hot here, Grace, the sea keeps the temperature down a bit - but it gets 45+ C or so in the highest summer heat. Air con rules then.

  • 8 years ago
    Pagan, I don’t know what “75% more” means either. It doesn’t look or feel like 75% less sun than outside the frame. We removed the entire frame for now and put it in the side yard. I’ll put it back and figure it out once we start surpassing 100 or so, which is probably soon. I may just use it to cover my patio table and me, like you. :)
  • 8 years ago

    I suspect many if not most of your plants will like the shade cloth.

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