I think I might arch her to the side, so that she grows some laterals. I’d attach her about halfway up that stake and let her cascade over to one side. As the other main canes grow from the ground do the same. LL looks like a good one for a pillar. Lisa

I try to find obelisk on Joss &main..all sold out and also a lot of what I like gone.

Lisa I love your idea. I have to step back and see how it is going to look and in btw perhaps shorter roses with companion plants. Still working on it but I would love to hear more ideas so I can put it all together.

My mind throws out so many ideas but in the end, I get confused and then lost.

This is a challenge for me. Even my planter box is empty.... thinking....hmmmm :)

Jin

I wanted Lavender Lassie but Pam of Angel Gardens told me she wouldn't bloom well here. Instead she steered me towards Belinda and Sally Holmes.

At this point I have many baby Hybrid Musks (and their relatives) but I don't have any of them on support other than an occasional tomato stake. Some of them are growing out instead of up (like Rosaleen, but I could not find any pictures of her normal growth habit).

Mozart is also growing out instead of up and I still haven't gotten a bloom yet! Maybe in the fall.

Shiela, how tall is your LL ? I wanted it as a bush so do you think, I need to prune those canes or wait and see ? I don't mind having it tall but not over 10 feet. What do you recommend ? If I take her support she will fall and I know that Bec I just got the green one yesterday and you can see a bamboo there.

Cedemas, I don't know why Pam said that Bec Lavender Lassie can grow up to zone 10b. There was a rose I wanted from her and she don't recommend it . I never questioned her about it . So far it has no BS and you know we got tons of rain. No disease ,no deficiency and I have not used any ferterlizer yet. None of my roses got any ferterlizer.

Jin

She said Lavender Lassie would not bloom much. She didn't say it wouldn't grow. I told her that I wanted to be inundated with blooms so she picked for me. One of the other roses she talked me into was Barfield White Climber, which is growing like a weed. In some ways it might be similar to Tausendschoen except for the color.

Jin, my LL may be about 4 ft tall so far. This year it relaxed and sagged so it is not as tall but is wider. It supports itself. If your Angel Gardens LL is own root and young, I would not prune her but rather let her gain strength. Leaving all the leaves and canes could help her get stronger. It might be it could grow many canes and still be a bush when it grows older. The shape of mine doesn't suggest a straight up climber here.

I got mine from ARE. But , this is so weird how it grew like on steroids. Shocking. The rest of canes is below. Maybe I can cut that one cane. And hopefully it becomes a bush. Bring it to rose society meeting next Sunday and see who wants cuttings...I will so happy to share my cuttings to rose members.

Jin

I am considering to cut but on the other hand is telling me No.

Decisions, decisions

Jin

Don't cut Jin. Let your baby grow for a year at least to strengthen.

Shiela, I won't cut :)

Thank you for helping me :)

Jin

Don't cut it !! It will fill out . Mine looked like Sheila's for the first 3 years . Then began throwing up climbing canes . I put a trellis behind it , because it is super windy here and canes broke . In fact this am , two 4 ft canes were broken from the storm we had last night. Mine also has begun blooming much more and better as it ages. I have a tough time photographing the good side of it without getting the back side of my home in the pic . But I'll show you what I have . Also I had a lot of long canes spreading down and I left them, they grew laterals and are worth the messy look it started as !

I'm sorry I don't have better photos from the good side. If it dries up today and looks half decent I'll take another photo and apologize for the back drop. I know this isn't the best pic but it's really beautiful in person .

Lily that looks so great. I am thinking of trellis also. I won't cut . I will let it grow up. After seeing Shiela's and yours..I am super happy. Thank you!!

Jin

I've always grown LL on structures, too, Lilyfinch. Trellis, tuteur, etc.

I'll be curious to hear how she blooms for you, Jin. LL wasn't my most remontant, but I was OK with that. She's a pretty, healthy rose with mainly one flush plus a bit of rebloom here in PDX. She could handle some shade. Congrats on your growing collection!

Sheila and Lily, yours are gorgeous! Carol

Here are some pics of my LL, although not nearly as beautiful as Sheila's and Lily's! This was new last year from ARE planted out late fall. It experienced very little dieback and now seems to want to bloom rather than grow, but I'm okay with that.:o

PS I agree with their advice to put more horizontally.

Vap, look at your LL. Looks so cute and a bunch of buds. Lucky, you :)

What else did you get. Oh, I remember, you were one of them suggested to get Penelope. I love mine a lot. It bloomed and now growing. Let me see if I can find a pic of it. Thank you :)

Jin

Thank you, Jin. Your Penelope is so beautiful! Mine was killed way back and then a rabbit nibbled on the rest! It's on a lower level that I think gets colder. I'm so bummed. I'm going to dig it up and hope it comes back in a pot. :(( If not, I may be hitting you up for a cutting or rooting now that you're getting into rooting too!

Well, I am trying a second cutting. Let's see if this works again. A few days ago, one of the branches broke due to high winds and heavy down pour.

So, I try to root it and see if second one grows. Serious, I put a cutting in a cow's manure and not mix with anything. Black cow's manure. Someone in Rose society here locally told me to try Bec it works for her. And I did it and it grew. Maybe first one was luck. Well, now I got another to experiment and see what happens. If it works great :).

Then , I can do cuttings for you in ahead of months that way you can take it home. Cross fingers it works second time..lol

Jin

How is everyone’s lavender lassie doing ? I thought of this thread today , bc mine is going crazy and I am not sure what to do for her! She’s huge! The canes are jutting out all over the place and over my other roses. The trellis is basically useless now . Somewhere under there is a poor clematis I thought would go well . Lol !! I have to consider moving two roses from her radius . I’ll tell you though, she has bloomed so well for me .

I have two Lavender Lassies. One went up into an apple tree and one is only about 5' tall. I used to have a pretty big one in a big pot...for a pot grown plant it was huge. Mine blooms heavily in spring , not much in summer, and usually has some blooms in fall.

Mine is doing terribly! I guess I'm taking the shade tolerance a bit too far so I need to move her into the sun. I'm going to try to do that before winter so that she can sit down some good roots and acclimate rather than trying let her struggle through the winter freeze thaw. I only got one small set of blooms after those pictures above. I think that area really needs a Climbing Hydrangea, although my Phyllis bide/GdF? Doesn't seem to mind this area at all although I have to see a bloom. However I just planted that one this year. I may just Potter up and put her in the garage for the winter. It's a hard decision.

Goshhhhhh Erasmus that is amazing. Are you a ruthless shaper / pruner or do you let it go where it wants ?

Vapor , I wish I had planted mine on the fence . It even crossed my mind to replace this one with a new one on the fence. Good idea to move it now. I’m moving a couple now too , they may rebel now but spring they won’t even know .

erasmus, your rose is spectacular! I've only seen LL in one place, the Huntington Library and Botanical Garden in Pasadena, and it was planted along an arch over a path and looked very pretty.

erasmus, I hope we're going to see more of your roses and garden; it looks spectacular. I assume that is a picture from spring, but honestly even now your garden must look much better than mine, and I'm constantly posting pictures just to get us over the summer doldrums. Please do us all a favor and post more pictures.

Mine so far a Spring bloomer only.

what a beauty Eramus. So beautiful and WOW. If one of my roses looks close like yours, I will be Soooo Happy.
I think I better moved nine. I am with you Vap and Lily. Mine is growing terrible too but I decided to peg it. Got the idea from Lisa . I received a newsletter email from Rose Society a few months ago and there was a video on Paul Zimmerman ( I think ) about different ways of pegging....saw the video with great interest and followed it to teeth. Now, after seeing Eramus pic, I think I better moved it soon.
Eramus, yes, pls showed us your beautiful roses.

Jin

Do you guys got edit buttons Bec I sure can't change any corrections but I should not complain. I finally managed to write something. I think I made about 30 passwords or more for each log in that I don't even know which I used..hahaha..joke is on me ..hmm ??!!

So based on all of this, I wonder what this rose needs to thrive.

Jin - I do have an edit button on my post still ? I think mine may have hardened too much to peg. And I feel like I opened a can of worms bc maybe it isn’t in a good place and I should remove it and not the others that it’s smothering. I do have to spray in the spring for blackspot. I did just cut off the errant canes and apologized to it .. it’s not it’s fault it’s growing so well . It took 4 years to get this big though . Oh what to do what to do ...

vapor , I think full sun and lots of room if you move it . Room down the line though.

OMG, Erasmus, that is really something! Where are you located? I've got 2 LLs but they were just planted out last fall.

Thank you. I'm in zone 7, in the NC foothills. We're on the east side of mountains, so it is dryer than the west side. Large parts of my big LL plant have died this summer. Not sure what did it...maybe dry weather. Have had a lot dryer years than this though. My smaller LL plant is in more shade, so I think it responds well to a sunny site. I don't water my big one and don't feed it much.

My garden looks fairly messy and overgrown right now. I have had a little time to do some weeding but have a lot more to do. I always weed more when the heat breaks. Here's another pic you've probably seen of LL with Alchymist. My husband likes the fragrance of LL a lot. It can defoliate from bs.

That is the dreamiest picture, erasmus. When I enlarge it I'm practically drowning in those gorgeous roses. It's a wonderful color combination.

Thanks for all the pictures of “grown-ups.” Mine is a teensy babe but I’m really excited to watch her grow. :-). Erasmus, that color combo with Alchymist is stunning, in a very refreshing way. Love it!

Jin, how did your LL cutting experiment go?

Perma, I did not cut Lavender Lassie. It grew taller than the stake so I decided to peg it. It looks better now . How's is yours growing ?
jin

All my cuttings died so I have not tried yet but my rose society will have a subject on that in couple of months. They brought so many baby plants and I ask how they grew and sounds exactly what I did but I guess I don't have the luck...lol

My LL is a just-barely rooted cutting, a newborn. She’s growing teensy little leaves, but I’ve had her in dappled shade, so no flowers yet.

All my rose cuttings failed, too. Rotted away. I’m going to try again this weekend. :-)

My Lavender Lassie has grown 10ft x 10ft. If you don;t want it that wide you will have to limit the canes that shoot up to maybe three or four.

Kathy, I know I've asked before, but where do you live to grow such a magnificent specimen? I went to your page, but there's nothing there about your location.

Kathy, yours is absolutely beautiful. I remembered yours being huge. I do have a spot like your size on a plot btw my neighbor and me. I am still debating and have to amend soil there if I want it transferred there by Spring.
Perma, I had some sort of greenish eggs underneath the leaves. So, I was washing Ebb Tide with soapy water then as I bend the the older branches a young shoot broke off from neighbouring branch. Now, it is a cutting. A good 8 inches long, I think maybe even 9. I will let you know how it turns out. That just happened like a few hours ago..haha

Thank you so much Cathy! I can only hope my LL looks like that!

Jin, sounds like you are supposed to start a new baby Ebb Tide! :-)

I live in zone 6 Bucks County PA

What Ingrid said!!

I would be happy to grow LL as Sheila and Lilyfinch do, as a good size shrub, but I'm am always looking for a reliable climber for my zone.

Does anyone in zone 5 grow Lavender Lassie as a climber? I am still looking for something - anything - that will cover a large arbor. I can only dream of having a climber that looks anything like those of Cathy's or Erasmus'. LL must be cane hardy in your zones.