Oh look, a ton of Liebherr counter depth fridges, none of which cost $10,000.

https://www.ajmadison.com/b.php/Liebherr%3BCounter+Depth%3BFull+Size%3BRefrigerators/Ns~price_with_promos02_%7C0%3BN~26+4294966346+4294851089+4294842433

Do you have pictures of your actual kitchen?

If you pick that stove is it going to make the other appliances look a little sad : ( ?

I can see what you're going for but is the rest of the room/house/furniture up to those standards?

The Frigidaire Professional range has matching counter depth refrigerator.

Leelee (insert crying emoji) I hope not! But good point. This is the only pic I have. I will try to get more. You can see where the fridge and range were.

my stove is next to my refrigerator and has never been a problem.

I really think you need to keep things in context. Maybe one of the great PhotoShop pros can come along and show you what your stove would look like in your actual kitchen.

Could you just visit the stove on occasion?

Haha visit on the internet? I’ll definitely give it some thought. I should be open to different stoves .... but I’m not. Haha.

I would see if there was a way to get a narrow cabinet between the fridge and the stove. As for fridge I would go with the Jen-air french door counter depth or the fisher paykell french door counter depth in white. Jenn air is all white F&P has stainless handles. since the feet are stainless I think either could work.

A high Erne showpiece like that will be wasted, and actually look awkward, tucked into a hidden corner. It’s like using a mink coat as a swiffer mop head.

Are you ripping out everything that’s there or painting existing? Are you changing flooring? I agree with the others, it’s a cool range, no doubt, but it needs to have other “like-minded” items around it.

I would want the [burgundy version[(https://www.houzz.com/products/36-single-oven-dual-fuel-range-burgundy-prvw-vr~107685647). My stove is red (Bertazzoni) but none of my other appliances are, except ones on the countertop.

I feel your pain, really. Mine is a French Bulldog. I love the way they look and sooo sweet but...

Yep, integrated (not merely paneled) appliances where you can, especially fridge.

Are you ripping everything out because spending that much money on a stove and putting it in the current kitchen doesn't seem prudent. You would still have the floors and what seem to be elderly cabinets. The expense seems disproportionate to the value of your kitchen and not how I would personally allocate money if I wanted to spruce up a kitchen.

Also - and I am not a venting expert - it doesn't appear as though you would be able to install an adequate hood for what I assume are the higher BTU's of the range. And if you are not wanting a high performing range and buying solely for aesthetics, it is going to look quite odd juxtaposed against the current cabinets and floors.

Yes yes yes! I am gutting this kitchen and removing a wall to open it up. All new flooring, all new cabinets, all new lighting, no clue about venting, but you get the idea.

Steph, take some of the funds you have and hire a kitchen designer. You can post a carefully measured plan here in this thread and there are some amazing professionals that will help with your layout since you are doing a total gut. You might think that you don't need a KD because the space is small, but that is exactly when you need one most. Smaller spaces need more careful planning. Take advantage of the knowledge here.

That stove is beautiful. I'm with the panel-front crowd. Or if you're into color (or white) over stainless steel, check out Big Chill Fridge. They made fridges and dishwashers.

Love the inspo pic.

Pretty stuff crammed in with no thought of maximizing the functionality will be a waste of money. It’ll be a Kitchen you hate to work in.

You need a Kitchen Designer. Desperately. Spending 75-100K on a low upper end job like this is just nuts to do without a Pro helping you to maximize the space.

I love your stove. Are you putting a champagne kitchen in a beer budget house? It may work, I don't know your housing market but it is possible that you will never get your money out of it. That's fine if you are just planning to enjoy the kitchen and not look at the upgrades as investment. But it is something to consider.

If you are gut remodeling then it would be wise to hire a designer to maximize your layout.

I am using a designer in my small kitchen and although I live in a condo so I can't move plumbing, I still was able to get a better layout by shifting my stove slightly and moving the refrigerator to the opposite wall.

If you are gutting you aren't wed to the current layout of stove next to refrigerator which is terrible.

What is your total budget.

There is nothing wrong with splurging on something that makes your heart soar - I bought an obscenely expensive copper kitchen sink and fairly expensive tiles but I didn't feel I had to compromise on what was necessary or functional to afford my splurges. :-)

My budget is around $25k. Ok, so maybe the stove is out. I can accept that.

I have a contractor, can I still hire a kitchen designer? Won’t they want to do the remodeling work?

Paneled appliances - do I have to work with the cabinetry people to achieve that? I feel like SS might feel wrong with these tiles. I was thinking white, but from what I’ve seen you need to spend big bucks to get nice looking white appliances - like smeg and big chill.

With the fridge against a wall, will you be able to open the fridge door enough to open drawers or be able to remove shelves/drawers for cleaning?

There are several threads right now with people who can't use their fridges as intended because they did not use a filler/spacer between the wall and the fridge. Don't make the same mistake.

Contractors don't design, they build. It doesn't matter how many they have built, it doesn't make them designers. In fact, that is probably how you ended up with the kitchen you have right now. Contractor and no design plan.

Kitchen Designers design.

Steph, take a deep breath and slow down. There is SO much you do not know about this process!

First of all, you have a VERY low budget...VERY, VERY low. I had a $25-30,000 budget for my own re-model 2 years ago, but...HUGE but...I kept my existing Corian countertops, I was not removing any walls or moving windows or electrical/gas/plumbing, and I was re-using ALL my appliances. I ended up spending $28,500.

You cannot do what you hope to do on your budget unless you use IKEA or RTA cabinets, low-end appliances and lower-end flooring and countertops and backsplash. It's just not possible.

And that stove? In your dreams!!!!

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Slow down and plan more! It's tempting to want to make immediate changes, but that usually has less successful results than if you educate yourself more. Hire design help. And investigate your contractor fully.

Anglophillia - gulp. You’re SO right. I am bit outta my league with this project. I appreciate all the advice.

Steph - It's pretty easy to educate yourself to the point that you can make informed decisions and evaluate advice given to you.

The first critical steps are to decide how YOU want your kitchen to function - what is important. At the same time, go through as many pictures of kitchens as you can and save the ones that you like. Don't spend a lot of time on each image - just do almost instant like or not interest. Later on you and your designer can decide what are the elements in the design that you like. That's how I worked with my designer and I loved about 90% of her choices when she presented me with her design board. I worked with her to tweak the cabinet layout because only I could tell someone exactly how I operated in the kitchen.

It would also be wise to get an initial estimate of costs for the cabinets because with your budget that would be the major expenditure. You can go to Loewe or Home Depot and they will provide you with a basic layout with the cost for the door style and wood species you like. It won't be your final layout and it won't be your final cost but at least you will have some idea of what cabinets will cost you.

People recommend IKEA a lot on this forum but there are no savings unless you assemble them yourselves. If you have to pay someone to assemble them, there are fairly high quality cabinet lines that are competitively priced.

As others have said, slow down because it's an expensive decision and your decisions will impact both the function and aesthetics of the final product. And if you use this forum wisely you can improve your functionality and probably learn how to get close to the look you want by savings.

You can also figure out what your priorities would be in allocating your budget. Your budget is doable if you prioritize - and certain elements are relatively easy to change at a later date and others aren't. You want to get your cabinets right but you can get a less expensive counter because counters are a relatively easy fix down the road. Your dream stove is out in your budget frankly but you can get higher quality appliances for much less and appliances are again a very easy change down the road as long as you leave standard sizing - i.e. dishwashers are 24"; stoves are generally 30" and most people want a 36" counter depth refrigerator. If you can't afford a counter depth refrigerator at this time, better to have the 36" because the refrigerator will need replacing before the cabinets and floors would.

Great advice, Helen. Thank you! I’m going to start working on getting an accurate current floor plan and really focus on layout. That oven is the last of my worries :)

Steph: you've gotten some great advice above and it sounds like you're going to take it to heart. Good for you! So many posters here have a dream that they're not willing to let go (or hear any advice against) so your attitude is refreshing. Continue taking advice and you'll end up with the best functionality for your space. You have nice taste so the looks will follow!

If you spend some time volunteering with Habitat 4 Humanity, and building up some DIY skills, that can help to stretch your budget while you research your options. Or volunteer with your handy friend’s projects.

@Steph read this thread too: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first-dsvw-vd~4306041

Sophie, I am not handy unfortunately. Volunteering my services would hinder not help! I will hire help! I just went through the kitchen again. Some things I'm considering are an 18" dishwasher and 30" / counter depth fridge. Those fridges are expensive, (Bye bye oven!) but the layout will be better. I will trust the professionals to come up with a good solution. I'm flexible for functionality.

Wiscokid - that thread is super helpful! Now I understand how to post a proper layout and what info to include. Thanks!

I posted my current layout with proposed peninsula here, if you guys wanna keep entertaining my madness: https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5373368/layout-help-1950s-ranch

Would NOT put fridge next to stove/oven(s) -- the heat from the ovens can keep your refrigerator running longer than necessary and shorten its life span.

As someone else mentioned, if your fridge is paneled to match your cabinets, it will not need to match your stove. Also, if your fridge were in your pantry, it would not need to match your stove.

Cannot help you with the refrigerator with the knobs but... there are magnetic towel rods that you can affix to your refrigerator door. Perhaps you could find one in the same finish as the oven door handle so it would have the same look.

or you might paint it brass and add it to a white fridge -- totally white ( you paint even any tiny bit of chrome white).

Aw, I'm glad you don't seem discouraged, this is an overwhelming process. We're in the throes of a floor to ceiling kitchen remodel and it's easy to get overwhelmed- there's just SO MUCH to think about and buy.

We were hoping for a 30k remodel but then decided to move walls and now it's over double the cost of what we originally wanted but I feel we'll love it more. I think it's important to think long term, we've done other remodeling and there has been a couple of things that we didn't do to save on cost that I now wish we had. How long will you live in the home? Would it be worth it in the long run? Would you rather have that one amazing stove or a few things you really like too?

We hired an interior designer and she came in and drew up a new kitchen layout for me and she was as helpful as I wanted her to be without being pushy. Try calling around and tell them you just want a one time visit for a kitchen layout, there's someone out there for you.

The best thing about the designer was that she drew up a plan I wouldn't have even thought of that maximizes our kitchen space.

When hoping to buy anything, look around, prices for the same item or very similar go up and down drastically.

Good luck

Reality check in order, along with Pro Kd. ASAP. And maybe a delay to the entire process as you sacrifice nothing but time. Better than a 25 k kitchen that falls far short of what you want. In any scenario.............PRO. On your site, in your home. Anything else is indeed "madness" no matter the budget involved.

You don’t have to be handy to volunteer with H4H. That’s the point. They’ll teach you a thing or two. And you’ll learn a thing or two. Every new job site, you’ll learn more. That comes in handy. Take their Basic Skills classes too if they offer them in your location. It’s for new homeowners to understand what ongoing maintenance owning a home actually means, and costs. You can’t go calling a $100 Pro every time some basic little thing needs attention. No landlord anymore. Most new buyers forget to factor home maintenance into their overall budgets, much less a separate account to fund for dream improvements.

The actual house note is the cheapest part of home ownership. And that’s why there is a larger default rate on loans to low income or starter homes than there is to higher priced homes. People forget, or never learned, that owning a home costs more than renting if you actually account for all of the associated items that need to be accounted for in the budget.

Sophie, good points. I know basic home maintenance. I am actually downsizing to simplify. My current home is twice this size and brand new construction. Before this, I owned a 1940’s craftsman and probably put $10k+ in 6 years for maintaining it. I understand the costs of home ownership. I am a stay at home mom to a toddler. I may have time for a class, but volunteering isn’t possible right now. I will look into the class tho. Always can learn more!

Renovating wise...I can afford to do a more expensive kitchen, I’d rather not though! I just want a simple, pretty, and functional small home. Sounds like my wants are actually pretty expensive.

http://www.remodeling.hw.net/cost-vs-value/2018/

https://nkba.org/info/why-hire-a-designer

http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/kitchen.design.rules.htm#.WvYPH_9OnYX

https://www.ceramictilefoundation.org/homeowners-guide-to-hiring-qualified-tile-installer

[https://www.houzz.com/discussions/10-tests-for-you-and-your-contractors-first-meeting-dsvw-vd~5332686?n=90[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/10-tests-for-you-and-your-contractors-first-meeting-dsvw-vd~5332686?n=90)

http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/sources.faucets2.htm

https://www.curbed.com/2018/3/7/17087588/home-renovation-unnecessary-mcmansion-hell-wagner

Oh wowie, thanks Sophie! Just read “Are home renovations necessary”...so good! This is why I bought the house I’m in now. It’s gorgeous and impressive, but very expensive. I’m sick of trying to impress people. This is why I’m not touching the bath in my new ranch. It’s straight out of the 50’s but I love the gray tiles! It’s really timeless. The kitchen on the other hand, I can’t do it. It’s a bad flip. All the original pink metal cabinets are in the garage! I’d rather have pink metal than what’s there now. kitchen reno necessary!

Just an update: I am not getting that stove. I bought all my appliances from the scratch and dent store, LOL! But, I’m very proud of my new kitchen. Will post before and afters once completed.

Fun and informative thread to read. Your kitchen is coming together really nicely. Be sure to keep posting.

You should be proud. It's gorgeous! You've made great choices that work together well and are still interesting. The range would have been lovely, but this will work so much better and instead of just one bit of "wow", the whole thing is "wowza".

Thank you! Here are my banged up appliances - lol. I went with Fisher and Paykel DW and fridge and a jenn air range (I couldn’t afford the f and p range). I think they are sleek and gorgeous... just dented on the side. Gotta give somewhere! My big splurge ended up being the Ann sacks backsplash...

I was going to suggest scratch and dent store too! Love when you can find good deals and (almost) perfectly good appliances. What cabinetry did you use? Love the color and style!

I bought the cabinets from a company called Lafata... it’s local to me in Michigan. I got the graystone on maple.

https://www.lafata.com/products/graystone-on-maple

Ann sacks tile is my kind of splurge !