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Need Tips for Rooting Pagoda (Clerodendrum speciosissimum)

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

I would like to propagate my pagoda plant (Clerodendrum speciosissimum). Since I have it growing in a pot, I don't have underground runners. I would like to root some starts to share with my sisters. Does it root easily from stem cuttings? Or is it fussy? I don't have a lot of plant material with which to work. I will have two or three chances and that's about it.

Here is my plant; photos taken in July. After the winter freeze, it came back from the roots. It's grown fast and is now about twice this size. It's about to bloom. I will take cuttings after the blooms are finished.







Thanks for the help,

Carol in Jacksonville

Comments (13)

  • 8 years ago

    Linda, thanks for the help. Do you get a good percentage of cuttings to strike? (Or if you only do one or two cuttings, do they usually take?)


    Also, have you tried rooting them in water?

    The plant has grown fast - [it is actually several years old[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/pagoda-plant-which-one-do-i-have-dsvw-vd~3028294?n=10) and coming back from rather established roots (after winter freeze). It is about twice as big as in the photos so I think I will have at least a couple 12" stems.


    I've had really good luck with cuttings this year... I've rooted brugs/angel's trumpet, purple firespike, justicia/jacobinia carnea, salvia 'Wendy's Wish', philodendron 'Xanadu', crape myrtle and butterfly pentas. It's been a good year for cuttings. I successfully rescued and transplanted numerous Salvia coccinea 'Coral Nymph', blue and purple porterweed and shrimp plant 'Fruit Cocktail' volunteers. I've currently got money tree (Pachira aquatica) and philodendron selloum cuttings in progress of rooting. Don't know if I will have any success with those or not.


    Thanks again for the advice. I'll post back with pics to let you know how I did.

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    If you put that plant in the ground, or just in a large pot, you'll have more babies than you could ever want. Yes, they root in water. You can even grow them from root cuttings. The problem is getting rid of them once they take over your yard.

    Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL) thanked dirtygardener
  • 8 years ago

    YES! Hence, the pot! :)

  • 8 years ago

    My plant has been in the ground for at least 10 years. It does put out a runner or two, but has never been a problem. It is a fast grower and I hard trim it in the Spring and trim lightly a couple more times during the Summer. I have had better luck with propagation during the Summer when everything roots better.

    Linda Leaf

    Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL) thanked linda_leaf _z10a_southwest_fl
  • 8 years ago

    Linda, that's like my Purple Showers plants. Everyone says they are invasive, but mine have never been. The ones I have now have been in the ground for 3 years, and just now put out one little shoot about a foot away.

  • 8 years ago

    Carol,

    Your plants look nice and healthy but don't look like my pagoda plant. Mine are clerodendrum paniculatum (hope that's spelled correctly). The leaves on mine are more oakleaf shaped and the flower heads are huge. Just goes to show you how common plant names can be confusing.

    I grew them in Williston in North Central Florida and they would die back to the ground but regrow from the roots. Here in SW Florida they don't die back and can easily get 6 foot tall or more.

    Mine are in the ground. True, they put out runners but they are easy to pull up. I transplant the little rooted plants and they take off quite well.

    Good luck with your cuttings.

    Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL) thanked Rhonda
  • 8 years ago

    A few years back, along with the help of quite a few GardenWeb members, we did a little "study" comparing these three different pagoda plants:

    Clerodendrum paniculatum

    Clerodendrum speciosissimum

    Clerodendrum japonicum

    Here's a link to the discussion:


    [Pagoda Plant - which one do I have?[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/pagoda-plant-which-one-do-i-have-dsvw-vd~3028294?n=10)


    In that thread, I linked three articles which are very helpful in differentiating between the three different plants. My best guess is that I have Clerodendrum speciosissimum.


    Mine is giving me hints that a bloom is on the way... when it flowers, I will get some good pics and then I will hopefully know for certain.



    Carol


  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Thanks for sharing all that info Carol! Here's a link to Floridata's article on C. Paniculatum which is what I have.

    https://floridata.com/Plants/Verbenaceae/Clerodendrum+paniculatum/961

    The easiest way for me to recognize it is the huge flower panicle which a cone shape and is much tighter and bigger than the more loose form of the other two. Also, it's leaves are more oak-like in shape.

    Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL) thanked Rhonda
  • 8 years ago

    Carol, i think yours is def a C. speciosissimum.

    i have taken sev cuttings while in Miami FL past winter and rooted them, but only one survived.

    it took a long time to root in flooded large perlite (perlite slush actually) with addition of 3% peroxide (1.5tsp per quart) to keep water from going bad. for the first couple of weeks i keep it in just water and do periodic sink dunks of leaves (just soak the the cutting in water for 30min). this helps with keeping leaves turgid until the roots show up. and that took 2 months! so dunking twice a week and 100% humidity in plastic tent helped me to keep 2 leaves to the end (from huge 5), until finally the growth started.

    it took a very long time. It was in winter, but past winter in Miami was super warm - 80s in feb and hardly ever below 60F at night. and most cleros were in bloom in the ground. so i don't think that it is a factor.

    i had to recut the rotting bottom twice and the cuttings were bagged in plastic the whole time. finally after 1 mo i noticed root nubs above perlite level, but it took another month for the 1 root to appear and only on 1 cutting. the other two finally rotted.

    from all the tropicals that i root in FL ev year this took the longest.

    it is still indoors in NY in my west window and is budding to flower :). but it still has only a few leaves. so not a very strong plant.



    Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL) thanked petrushka (7b)
  • 5 years ago

    Requesting your thoughts about the flowering behavior of my C. paniculatum. Dozens in ground in various places and lighting, all propagated from cuttings of descendents of one potted plant. That small plant was flowering, as were the potted ones that I have seen at the nursery. In contrast, my plants never flower when small, instead they flower only after growing tall. That is so even when I shorten tall ones; they just repeat growing tall, then they flower.

    Is it that I must grow in pots in order to get them to flower without their growing tall?

  • 5 years ago

    The Pagoda flower is actually C. paniculatum. C. speciosissimum is known as Java Glorybower. Both have that orange flower but the size of the flowers are different and the umbel is a different shape as well.

    My C. paniculatum broke a piece off this spring after being blown over and I cut it into two separate pieces and inserted them into a pot that was empty as the annual in it had died. The soil seemed to be very high in peat. Lo and Behold (I love-hate this adage), both pieces rooted in and seem to be thriving.


  • 5 years ago

    Good for you! I've always heard it's easy to root.

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