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Help With Rose Selection - Sonoma County Wine Country

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Hi there! I'm just south of Santa Rosa in the California Wine Country and could use some help picking three rose bushes I'd like to add to my garden in the fall.

New to my vegetable garden this year are these two raised beds, roughly 2' X 2'.



As you can see, this year I filled them with vegetables, but am thinking once the season is over, I'd like to plant roses here instead. The site gets plenty of sun, regular irrigation, and because the beds are raised, I can amend the soil easily, though about 2 feet down is clay.

Here are a couple photos that give you a better idea of the space:





In this space, I'm looking for two roses (I want to keep that 3rd bed with the arch for tomatoes and beans).

My Wish List:

  • Big stunning roses that I could cut, if desired.
  • Fairly disease resistant (black spot, aphids and mold are a problem here as we get foggy mornings)
  • Blooms for a long time, at least through the summer.
  • I really want a rose where the blooms are yellow in the center then either orange or pink on the tips of the petals. I've seen them where the color is nearly neon. I'd like the second rose to be anything that might compliment the colors in the first.
  • The bushes can't get too wide. As you can see, on one side I still want space to grow vegetables over my arch. On the other side, I have a clothes line. So I'm hoping to find bushes that can grow tall, but can be pruned to stay relatively around 3' X 3' wide.

I have this second space where I'd like to put a climber:



It also gets full sun when planted on the right side (beans growing there now will be gone in a month or so). I'm not picky about the color or style, but looking for something that is fairly hearty and easy to grow, and will give me as much screen as possible from the eyesore behind it, which is my compost bin and tool area of the garden, as well as that view into my neighbor's yard.

I would appreciate any and all suggestions for varieties. I've used these forums many times for ideas, and you all have never steered me wrong!

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide!

Comments (9)

  • 8 years ago

    loribee - roses will grow like crazy in your climate & lovely yard! I would guess everything will grow larger than the advertised size, so keep that in mind.

    Re a tall but relatively narrow rose, "The Lark Ascending" by David Austin Roses is a really nice one - it's thorny, but lovely (pale apricot yellow with a bit of a water lily like look to the blooms).

    Re how long the blooms last in the heat, is scent important to you? A lot of the "tougher" roses don't have much scent.

    I'm definitely a rose novice, so would also be interested in other people's thoughts!!!


    loribee2 thanked cyndita (west coast zone 9)
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for the response! I have seen the David Austin roses recommended for this area. I will look at that one! As for fragrance, I think I'm in luck. I'm actually very sensitive to strong fragrances, so I have been ruling out any roses that advertise being highly fragrant.

    I've spent a good portion of the evening doing more research. In my area, "4th of July" seems to come highly recommended as a potential climber for my arbor. Though I'm still trying to decide if that's the look I'm going for. As for candidates for my two raised beds, I'm kind of insane for the color and characteristic of "Chicago Peace". Feedback on that rose is welcome, as well as ideas on what might be a nice color to compliment it.

    I'm now also scheming on another area of my yard where I have white Iceberg roses growing very well (recommended on these forums, thank you!). I also have cala lillies and a potato vine. I.e., too much white. I've got space to fill in some color, and am looking for hearty slightly shade-tolerant shrubs. They'll go in the ground and may need to be tough enough to compete with roots from other plants. From what I've read, I should probably be looking at "species roses" for that area, though I'm open to any suggestions and ideas.

    Thank you again for thoughts!


  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I agree that roses will grow amazingly well for you in Santa Rosa, and your garden is gorgeous, too. I also love the roses with the colors you describe, I call them the sunset colored roses. I like them with both a balance of pink and orange, a fair amount of yellow and some copper. I have a few favorites:

    Chicago Peace , which you have mentioned:

    Granada


    Love & Peace

    Since you seem to be like me and like an eyeful of color, how about:

    Neil Diamond

    Brigadoon

    Gemini

    For a solid red, there is no better cutting rose than Veterans Honor (huge,perfect, long stems, lasts 2x longer than other roses)

    To lighten things up, check out Moonstone...white with just a touch of pink, size and form very compatible with the Peace roses. Seems to be extraordinarily large,long lasting and high quality, mine is new so I don’t have a good pic yet.

    St Patrick is another great one for cut flowers. A novel green tinted yellow with pink centers, extremely long lasting , big blooms on a robust plant.

    loribee2 thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 8 years ago

    What about Disneyland? I don't know how it is for disease resistance in your particular microclimate, but I think it does well in many areas of California. For what it's worth, I think there's a climbing version of peace.

    loribee2 thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 8 years ago

    OMGoodness, BenT those are gorgeous, and I love your term for them, sunset. They really do stop you in your tracks the way a beautiful sunset would. Thanks for the suggestions. That Love & Peace is a stunner, and I haven't run across it in my searches yet.

    And vaporvac, thanks for the suggestions. I am definitely looking those up!

  • 8 years ago

    Since scent isn't a requirement for you, some of the Kordes roses might work well - they tend to have healthy foliage & longer lasting blooms, but not much scent. I don't personally grow it, but Kordes "Fiji" is a deep pink that might fit your color scheme - I know some people here like it.

    For breaking up the area with too much white, I think either pink or red roses would be nice, especially with some purple companion plants thrown in (e.g., lavender, salvia, or nepeta).

    loribee2 thanked cyndita (west coast zone 9)
  • 8 years ago

    Great suggestions, thank you!

  • 8 years ago

    That might be the one for me!