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Ch. obtusa 'Chirimen'

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Can you guys post your Chirimen pictures. I'd love to see what it looks like in the landscape

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  • 8 years ago

    I have one, but it’s still pretty small so not much of an example. You may enjoy this video though.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ztspX_Wo54Y

  • 8 years ago
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    Here is my little one in its first and second years In my conifer garden. Its growth rate is faster than what I was expecting.





  • 8 years ago

    Mines not planted in the ground it's on my patio.

  • 8 years ago

    I pulled mine. Not an attractive cultivar in my view. Too many other, better choices! Sorry, I know others will disagree, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

  • 8 years ago
    Not an attractive cultivar!? Outside of Wissel's Saguaro I don't think there's a better Chamaecyparis! Look at this beauty
  • 8 years ago

    Notice sections of persisting dead male stobili (pollen flowers) in above photos, in addition to the mutagenic looking shoot structure - this one is only attractive as a liner, when the silver markings are more evident and the deformed appearance of the shoots has not become apparent yet.

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    "this one is only attractive as a liner, when the silver markings are more evident and the deformed appearance of the shoots has not become apparent yet."

    How 'attractive' any plant may be is certainly in the eye of the beholder, so issuing blanket statements like the above is just a matter of personal opinion and nothing to be taken as fact :-)

    I grow this same plant myself in a container (will try to get some photos later) as well as the Wissel's Saguaro mentioned previously and find the very sculptural form (and even the "deformed" or "mutagenic" shoot structure) of both plants rather appealing and offering a nice contrast to the more traditional growth habits of other dwarf conifers in my selection.

    If one does not like or appreciate the form of these plants, one is not obligated to growth them themselves..........no valid reason to condemn them to others!!

  • 8 years ago

    LOVE 'Wissels'. I have about 6-7 of those. Part of this may be due to my climate - we're summer dry and the dead foliage hanging on is not to my liking. May well be worse here.

  • 8 years ago

    I think I agree with Embothrium . I have one growing for about 4 yrs zone 6b PA and It does not look as good as the one above. I have Obtusa Nana Gracils growing close and it is growing just fine! it looks good.

    They look great in the pots in the nursery fresh off the Oregon delivery trucks. Every time I see new ones in the nursery I want to get another! With age there is interior browning ( which is not unusual) but looks bad on by plant. I assume it is my location, PA is hot and humid , soil is average, growing in Part sun .

    Sara, I too LOVE Chamaecyparis lawsoniana ' Wissel's Saguaro. It does wonderful in PA.

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    With 'Chirimen' it's not the usual old dead foliage on the inside, it's the additional weirdness of dead male (pollen) cones remaining stuck on the outside. That don't show any sign of dropping off anytime soon - these can be seen in every example except the first in the above photos, often located well below the existing growing points. As though they may have been in place for years.

  • 8 years ago

    I also am with Embo on this. I had one for about 8 years before it suddenly dropped dead. The last 3 years the aged dead foliage couldn't even be brushed off. I do have another little one that time will tell on.

    tj

  • 8 years ago

    Dean, Chirimen is one of my favorites too. By the way your Chirimen is a really handsome tree. Is that a lawson to left?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes! Good eye! It's a very young 'Filip's Golden Tears.' You can't tell it from the photo, but it's actually staked. The bit you see leaning into the 'Chirimen' is mostly this year's floppy new growth. Sometime later this fall I'll get a taller stake.

  • 8 years ago

    Got to go with the pro Chiramen crowd on this one. Here are pics


    of one of mine.

  • 8 years ago

    Ooohhh, Scott, that's a stunning specimen!! I am not posting any photos of mine now as my feeble little container specimen falls very short in comparison :-))

  • 8 years ago

    Scott that is incredible!

  • 8 years ago
    Here are mine! We'll see what happens...
  • 8 years ago
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    Scottih , THAT IS A ROCKIN PLANT,,,I suppose fla. living has something to do with it

    Brandon those are rockin TOOooo...

    ron

  • 8 years ago

    Brandon Johnson, I look forward to seeing if those cuttings take for you. I'd love to read/see how the process plays out.

  • 8 years ago


    1st time poster. 'Chirimen' in St. Louis, MO. September 2018.

  • 8 years ago
    Hey Hu, Welcome aboard, nice tree!
  • 8 years ago

    Beautiful! Try finding two Chirimen's that are even remotely similar...

  • 8 years ago

    what direction is this wall facing ?

    ron

  • 8 years ago

    Wall is facing due East. I've always been aware of the dead sections but they never seemed to bother me too much. Every year or two i would go in and rub them off. But I understand the different view points on this plant. It is unusual. It appears to me to be easy to prune to keep in bounds. Every so often I will prune off different "arms" to keep it off wall and within boundaries. A different view:


  • 8 years ago

    very COOL plant , I think I would over look the browning also

    ron

  • 8 years ago

    ok ok that one IS gorgeous!

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    Chirimen can be propagated by cuttings as well as grafting, most likely onto Thuja understock, and the resulting plants' habit may result in part from the prop method. I like it... I think it makes a great focal point. Here's mine, a few year old graft:


  • 8 years ago

    Maple grove, beautiful garden! what kind of Japanese Maples do you have in your collection?

  • 8 years ago
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    Maple , Please make a post showing more of your garden

    looks nice , ron

    I know you have been here many years,,,,indulge us

    quick look around