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puddle on tiled shower floor

8 years ago
my newly tiled shower floor has a small puddle. contractor removed tile and 'fixed' it. there is still puddle and seemed like the puddle is now larger. my question is, couldn't the contractor test his slope work? it seems lile his work is trial and error. i am scared to ask him fix it as it might be worse :(

Comments (17)

  • 8 years ago
    What was the waterproofing in the shower? Any photos of work in progress?
  • 8 years ago
    unfortunately, i don't have any photos of work in progress. i just know he used cement, waterproof liner, cement.
  • 8 years ago

    Pre-slope needs to be in place BEFORE the tiles. Flood test (leak & drainage check) happens before the tiles are placed. Your not properly fixing bird bath's after the horse has left the barn.

  • 8 years ago
    does that mean no point asking him to fix it?
  • 8 years ago
    Also, i just read about flood test for tiled shower. is it a common practice? my contractor did not do that.
  • 8 years ago
    if the shower water proofing is fine, having small puddle of water on shower floor is ok?
  • 8 years ago

    If it is not draining properly on the surface it is not draingf properly at the pan. Water sitting becomes stagnant.

  • 8 years ago
    got that. however, would there be mold issue? water will seep though the grout. if waterproofing is good, would there be issues other than cosmetics issues?
  • 8 years ago

    Water sitting in the pan will become stagnant which will lead to mold.

  • 8 years ago

    A photo of the puddle would help.


    If your shower is not draining properly then mold etc could become an issue. The issue is where is the unevenness. If it goes right down to the shower pan liner then that water will never drain and it's a major fix. If it's just at the surface right under the tile then it might be an easier fix. But as your contractor already tried and failed to do a spot repair it sounds as if there's no waterproofing on the shower pan directly under the tile. There are lots of contractors who have been building showers in the same way for many years and just haven't adopted the new standards, methods of construction and modern waterproofing products. I think an honest conversation with your contractor is needed to understand what they did and how it can be fixed.

  • 8 years ago

    Water pan liner is not water proofing? the puddle of water will disappear in about 1 hour. i assume it seep below. there is pan liner below.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The pan liner is a waterproof layer, but modern shower construction uses a waterproof layer right under the tile ie on top of whatever the tile is being stuck to. This might be a waterproof sheet like Kerdi or a painted on coating like Hydroban.

    OK your puddle could be in a far worse position. You could just help it on it's way after you've showered, I actually wipe the walls and floor of my shower after every use, or get you contractor to have another go at a fix.

    The puddle might be slowly draining or the water seeping into the mortar bed below (assuming there's no waterproof membrane on top). In that case if the pan liner is correctly sloped the water should drain through weep holes at the base of the drain.

  • 8 years ago

    thanks for the information. if the water is seeping into the mortar, and the pan liner is sloped correctly it is fine. however, if the pan liner is not sloped correctly and water is snagnant on the pan liner, it is an issue, as the water will cause mold issue. is my understanding correct? attached is a picture where there is liner. The contractor was fixing a leak in the remodeled bathroom. (yup he did not test his work)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    That's basically correct. It looks like there's not much thickness of mortar at the drain if that's the liner in the photo and that might be part of the problem. There doesn't appear to be any water proofing on top of the mortar bed which is the modern "best practice", but it is the way it's been done for a long time. The way you have things should be ok as long as the pan liner has a pre-slope under it.

  • 8 years ago
    what is part of the problem? is there a way to know if the pan liner is sloped correctly? contractor said that he's worried the liner might get damaged if he tries to fix the water puddle problem. i am also worried because the prior puddle is smaller than after his 'fix'. i am worried he makes matter worse if he tries to fix it.
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    There should usually be an inch or so of mortar thickness at the drain to allow for some fine tuning of the height of the drain so it's just below the finished tile. You can either screw the drain up or down a bit or remove a bit of the mortar.


    The way to know if the pan liner is sloped is to ask your contractor if they installed a pre-slope under the pan liner.