I remember wanting this rose so BADLY! But there were some iffy things about it. First it is a true climbing tea rose which alone said 'no' to me in my zone even if it is rated to zone 5. Also Botanica's Roses book says 'does not like wet weather and is prone to mildew and black spot' so I stayed away. They also say 'vigorous, climbing growth is best on a wall or pillar, and it is wise to bend the stalks down to develop laterals and more blooms'. Also has hooked prickles! But if you can grow it, it is an absolutely gorgeous rose!

You can’t grow it in the garden in our cold zone. I have one in a pot, it’s a small tender baby after 2 years, about 1.5’ tall. I don’t think it will be a big plant. I love the blooms. Mine doesn’t have BS problem (it was on a deck during the summer).

Kate, I am so interested to read people's replies. I have long lusted after Gloire de Dijon (even the name gets me in), but like you, have been put off by some reports. I hope the replies don't make it too tempting, as where would it go?...…….

I got an own root GdD from High Country Roses and love it here.

Where would it go is my problem too, titian--but maybe it is time for my gardens to undergo a complete facelift!

But seriously, lkay and summer are making me more suspicious than I was. Doesn't sound too promising.

Guess we will all have to wait for replies from all those gardeners who found it easy-peasy to grow Gloire de Dijon--no disease problems--great re-bloomer--etc. Or something like that. Maybe.

Well, we will wait, at any rate. : )

Here is a pic from google search--sometimes more apricot pink (as here), other times more buff yellow.

Kate

Here is Judy's baby:

https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/4597836/seriously-love-gloria-de-dijon#n=15

Wonder if star of the republic would be a similar color for you and better hardiness ? I also wanted that rose but my zone 7 is not very stable so I didn’t try. It sure is disappointing when you find out a rose needs a warmer zone

She's the best of the best of all the flouncy, blowsy, tousled roses, IMO.

Hey Kate. These reminders make me so sad bc my beautiful bush up and died on me. I tried another one and it was a teensy tiny baby that never survived. Grrrr. Anyways, I ordered one from RU and it’s doing pretty good but the blooms just don’t seem as pretty as mine from RVR. Hoping they get better next year. My first one was never a good bloomer but when it did it was the prettiest girl in my garden!! Mine did get black spot but I’m in black spot country. Grrrrr

Jen is absolutely spoton with Star of the Republic. It’s my very favorite rose and blooms great. Doesn’t get much bs and the blooms are to die for. Mines only about 6-7 ft tall.

Its not quite as muddled and full but it’s gosh darn gorgeous. Lol

Take care, Judy

Such lovely pics--and I just love flowersaremusic's comment:

"She's the best of the best of all the flouncy, blowsy, tousled roses"--what a compliment. Ha!

Thank you, everyone for your input.

Can't decide what I want to do. Wish either one (or both) of the roses (Gloire or Republic) were more bs resistant.

Can we clarify how cold hardy any of these mentioned roses are? I'm in Zone 6 in Kansas. I used to view us as a "transition" area--some years a bit more of the northern winter touch, other years, more of the southern winter touch. But now with signs of climate change approaching, I don't know what to call our area (I'm practically in Oklahoma--very southern part of Kansas). I suspect that means much milder winters, but in early spring, possibly more incidences of sudden freezes overnight--which can be rather hard on roses. But who knows for sure?

Kate

When we first moved to our house, I bought GdDijon. Planted it right by the house, which was in one way a mistake (because its so thorny) but in another was great (because its so fragrant). Had it for a few years, then it died in a cold winter. I have tried again multiple times, but was unable to ever again get it through a single winter; I have given up. I think my first time was just a lucky fluke; ultimately, I think that this rose, sadly, simply isn't hardy in zone 6.

How do you know it's a she and not a he? ;) Happy growing!

You guys are BAD!. I impulsively added SofR to my ARE order. So much for planning, but I couldn't resist and somehow rationalized that she would look great in the front bed I'm building against the brick wall. Here's to hoping she's (or he's) somewhat BS resistant.

I didn’t see Star on ARE’s list. Did you call them to order one? I might want another one......

I just had a peek and Star of the Republic is on the ARE list, and is shown as being available. Go for it, summers!

It's there. Check under ALL ROSES. I did notice that quite a few that I had on my Wish List were no longer listed at all, as opposed to being OOStock. I hope that doesn't mean they are no longer carrying them as there were a few HMusks that I still wanted. I guess the motto is get 'em while you can! : (

Point well taken, rob333. I've no idea where her name came from. Is Dijon a derivative of John, or vice versa? She still looks like a fluffy powder puff on a lady's dressing table to me.

I got it! Thanks guys! I am not good at rooting, so the fastest way is to buy another. Lol I will plant it in the new garden in PA next year. :-)

Kate, just get one and grow it in a pot. You won’t regret when you see the blooms! :-)

Yay! I got to enable!

I uderstand that in the States there are two strains of Gloire. One is like the original and the other not. The poorer one hasn't the strength or disease resistance, than the good one has. If possible, your best bet would be to get Gloire from a reputable nursery that specialized in the old roses and has a good reputation.

Mine was from High Country Rose. I hope it’s the right one.

Actually, I call all my plants "her". I can only think it's because they're so beautiful and make me giddy and sigh... Gloire is exceptionally beautiful. She deserves the title of her.

We're in agreement then, rob333, but since you raised the question, albeit in fun, I would like to know her history. Thanks to everyone here, I've fallen into the gotta have it camp. I'm not good at potted roses, but surely I could manage one. Now, where to find the 'real' one.

Point well taken, rob333. I've no idea where her name came from. Is Dijon a derivative of John, or vice versa?

Dijon is a city in eastern France, in the Burgundy region, where it was bred/introduced. The name means "Glory of Dijon."

Interesting about the two varieties out there. Does that mean one is an imposter? One more pink, one more yellow? Does anyone get both colors on the same plant?

It never occurred to me that it was named after the Dijon city in France. Thank you for clearing that up. Now, if we can just get to the bottom of the two versions of GdD being sold.

I grew it in 6a/7 and it was close to the biggest blackspot magnet of any rose, but you may not get the humidity that we do here so maybe it would be better for you.

My plant came from Pickering twenty years ago, and I am quite certain it was the correct variety.

That said, it grew very well in zone 8 under plastic (though it suffered Mildew quite badly at times), but when I moved the greenhouse, it stayed in position and suddenly found itself outside, exposed to the elements. From that point forward, it declined rapidly in spite of the frequent sprayings with 2-3 different fungicides. Even so, it was tragically prone to Blackspot. The first time we got a freeze that went down 15F, 90% of the plant was destroyed. After that, it never recovered and within two more years it was gone, in spite of all my efforts to bring it back. It simply isn't freeze hardy.

I can't imagine you'd get away with growing 'Gloire de Dijon' in a region where Blackspot pressure is anything more than mild, and fungicides will be pretty much mandatory, unless you are in Texas or SoCal. As I found it barely "hardy" in zone 8, I can't begin to imagine it'd last for long in Zone 6.

Don't get me wrong - its a gorgeous thing - but its only truly suited to a very narrow spectrum of conditions: hot and dry.

Ingrid, I'd love to see GdD and Marechal Niel at your home. Paul, that sounds so tragic. I might keep mine potted.

Ah, another rose bubble burst! I just don't have the energy anymore to fuss over plants that need a lot of help and care-taking. So I guess I should check further into Star of the Republic or maybe a few others.

Thank you everyone for all the good information! And for giving me the chance to at least talk with you about this beautiful rose. If only she were more cold hardy and BS resistant . . . . Sigh. : (

ETA: I've made a decision--will go with a Kordes rose with excellent BS resistance and lovely old-fashioned blooms--Honeymoon (the best I can do since OGRs just are not partial to my gardening region). Sizewise, it is just right also--6-7 ft tall. Not quite the old-fashioned beauty that Gloire is, but otherwise, a really good choice, I do believe.

Kate