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Rooting in the winter

7 years ago

Hello all, Newbie here!! Fell in love with Plumerias 10 years ago when I spent 2 weeks in Maui, fast forward to today finally I have a few sticks that I recently acquired. I hear this is a terrible time of the year to start rooting I know, I know. But I love a challenge.


My journey began in early October & I must say this is a true test of my patience. Something I have very little of... I feel like spring will never get here & my little sticks are just dormant.... or are they. I did not think to start rooting them in a clear container, though now I wish I had. It would be like looking at an x-ray almost showing me whats happening in that container & just might get some extra entertainment during my daily gaze. I watch every little spot on them without moving them around, I inspect for sign of wrinkling or rotting. Gently squeezing at the base & tips ensuring its not soft since I hear that's not a happy sign. I have not been watering them since there are no leaves, But I have put a sip in the ones that are already rooted. But only a sip. I hope they all survive till spring, I'm a really nervous since these are my first babies that I am trying to root. Let alone me trying to find out if I could possibly have a green thumb now after years of just avoiding the black thumb.


I now have names for all of them at this point... not sure if that's normal.

1 Rooted Typhoon (Suebee) (BB&B)
1 Fascination 2 tip (Veronica) ---Not really sure if its Fascination or not just what I believe it may be based on flower color & smell (Cuttings were taken from my MIL house she had no idea it what it was)
1 Fascination middle v no tips (Woody)
2 Fascination 2 tip twins (Thelma & Louise) these 2 both had inflows when I cut them (I clipped the inflows and put in a vase they lasted a full moth of blooms)
1 Fascination 1 tip (Slim)
1 Rooted Puu Kehea 2 tip (Poo-kie) (EP)
1 White noid 1 tip little guy (Froto)


I took pictures of all of these sticks when I first took the cuttings and I know for sure how they were all shaped. Now on to the cool stuff.... at least to me a total novice (professional in only reading knowledge). I understand that when you cut a branch, it forms new branches..... I wondered where this would happen on woody since I cut both sides for symmetry. 1 of the sides started to rot so I was forced to take off about 2 inches from one of the sides about a week ago. I put cinnamon the cut end checked again last night. Looking good. no more rotting look & now...... at 2 leaf scars the wood is SWOLLEN. like really swollen looking. I think Woody is trying to shoot out his new tips from there. Too cool. The other side has a swollen area too... but not like this side.


I will try and post pics later. & I will update. Any suggestions. I do live in central Fl. So our temps are mild & winter is short. But its not over yet............

Comments (50)

  • 7 years ago

    I do have some cuttings in rooting process right now. I do bag rooting method. It works for me and I do not have to guess if there is rooting or not. Here is a link for bag rooting.

    http://www.socalplumeriasociety.com/rooting-cuttings/bag-rooting-methods



  • 7 years ago

    thank you.. I wish I had tried that... At least I could see what going on. I'm eagerly awaiting spring.

  • 7 years ago

    Welcome, Rachael! If you put your state and zone by your name, we can always help you better. Where are you located in FL? I've rooted plumies all year long inside. Spring and fall are easiest, and I like late fall because they are naked and spend all their time making good, strong roots for spring.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Are you using a heat mat to warm the rooting media?

  • 7 years ago

    I am just outside of Orlando. I don't have anything under them ar the moment the are all in my office...... It's quite warm in that space. I just put them in the window to get some sun. I gave tiny sip yesterday to the 2 rooted. what should I get to heat them.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Any kind of seed starting heat mat. Look online for the type which can be used on a window sill since that is where you have them. I have a couple of those and they are OK for the $9 price tag.

  • 7 years ago

    The best rooting environment is a moist one. Of course, warm temps help, but as long as we are above freezing they should root. I have ten pentas and six porterweeds rooting outside at the moment and they are doing very well. I keep them in covered plastic containers with holes in the top and bottom that allow air and moisture in and water out. These were cuttings that I put in small pots with potting soil and it dipped the ends in a rooting mixture before inserting them in the pots. The containers are in a shady area.

  • 7 years ago

    I will check into the heat mat. I think they are all doing well so far. But I also think because of the dormancy time it's just going to be slow. This is my first try and I am aware I may not succeed this time.... but won't give up. I did get 2 that are fully rooted. They are just dormant. I was told during the rooting process no leaves no water...To start I let them dry and calous first.... Then applied the root hormone and put in soil. Wet the soil and left alone.... Sort of...lol i did have them outside to start but then it got a little colder last month so I brought them in.

  • 7 years ago

    I've had plumie cuttings I tossed under an oak tree to callous and forgot root into the ground. They were all dessicated, but as soon as I potted them up and watered them, they perked right back up. Plumies are a lot tougher than you would think.

  • 7 years ago

    I see them every where I go. I am obsessed for sure. I'm sure this next year a few more will be added to the collection. My plans are to be able to gift to family in the next few years as well. I need to start planning what I would like to add. Each scent so unique.


  • 7 years ago

    I bought some cuttings and was gifted others recently and so have about 12 in the process of rooting now. Hate to say it, knock on wood, but all are looking good 4 weeks in. Like others have said, be sure they're on heat mats to warm the media. Sounds like you've got all the other steps just right. Happy holidays.

  • 7 years ago
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    I had some long cuttings of Aztec Gold flower in the laundry room during the winter no soil at all . I cut them to get the tree into the gh for the winter, and forgot about them. They were on the side of the dryer next to the wall. There's a window in there. One day I went in and smelled Peaches..hmmm..then saw the yellow flowers on a looongg inflo sticking up the side of the dryer. Crazy thing

    Many years ago, when I went to Stokes Tropicals in Louisiana they had theirs rooting in straight sand in pots. After that I didnt worry too much about what medium to use. They just can't stay too wet and cold.

    I often have branches fall in the gh and root in the ground or in other pots too.

  • 7 years ago

    Update....
    Froto: RIP I don't think there's any hope for the little guy. He just keeps getting smaller.
    Woody. After having to amputate 1 of the sides down due to rot. He finally seems to be showing signs of life. I now see 2 areas have broken through to reveal baby leaves just forming.
    Also I added a new 3 tip white to help mend my broken heart. My wife named Edward (scissorhands). Just going to have to wait a few more weeks until spring.

  • 7 years ago

    I just stick pieces in the sand and they root. I have too many!

    Jane

  • 7 years ago

    I wish I could say I have too many! I am only just starting & already need a support group such as this. =)

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  • 7 years ago

    I guess that's your Woody that's looking happy? Good for you!

  • 7 years ago

    Woo hoo! I got a cutting from a friend this winter, and it seems to be rooted. I see a bit of green on the tips, but no leaves yet. I can hardly wait!

  • 7 years ago

    Good wishes that it continues to do well Dirtygardener.

  • 7 years ago

    My neighbor left a cutting from her daughter on my doorstep when I was out of town. She told me to let it sit fir a few days then stick it into sone soil and let it root.


    I used a clear Solo cup w/a hole poked in the bottom of it.

  • 7 years ago

    Nancy yes that is Woody looking like he rooted. I wanted to update. But I could only post a pic from my phone. I'm so excited to see my late season attempt to root was successful. I have several others that appear to have also made it so far, Only Veronica is showing signs of life now as well. A leaf shot up & there is something going on in there,..... Pic to follow

  • 7 years ago

  • 7 years ago
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    Suncoast- I guess a solo cup will work but how are you securing it? Mine always either flop or get knocked over by the dog before they've rooted, so I need to stake. Was there a hard callus formed at the end of the cutting? A warming mat works wonders too if you have access to one. You probably know all this so forgive me if all's a repeat but no watering till you have 3 leaves. And try to resist the temptation to pick it up out of the soil to see how it's doing if you can! Warm wishes of great results.

  • 7 years ago

    I have 2 I'm trying in coarse perlite only. They are in my office still very dormant. But I'm excited to have spring upon us here. I even took a go at some seed this weekend. Not sure how succesful that will be only time will tell. To think this adventure just started in October..... What will the next few months reveal?

  • 7 years ago

    Rachael,

    Last upload pictures, it seems like inflo to me. Next few weeks will tell. Good luck.

  • 7 years ago

    That's what I'm wondering! But its too small to tell yet, I will know more in a few days as everyday it looks different. I will be looking again tonight.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Let's hope for an inflo. Chopsticks and plant tie tape should help stabilize your cuttings from all but direct hits. also tie the cutting to your container from two or three sides so even if it gets bumped over the cutting doesn't move as much in the rooting media.

  • 7 years ago

    Just wanted to give a quick update on all my babies. 3 are already awake. and the others are just beginning. It appears that I might have a ton of flowers for my first year.

  • 7 years ago

    Yep, nice inflos!

  • 7 years ago

    Veronica's first flower is opening today :)

  • 7 years ago

    Veronica is gorgeous! The one I rooted over the winter is putting out leaves. I just moved it out of the shade into afternoon sun, and it's very happy. It's only in a 1-gallon pot, though, so I'll probably move it up to a larger pot when it gets a few more leaves.

  • 7 years ago

    thank you :) I am very proud of her. the smell is like spicy jasmine. here's today's shot for some inspiration

  • 7 years ago

    Veronica's update. new flowers opening :)

  • 7 years ago

    Here is my handsome Woody. And the lively Veronica.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Tom! I have been blessed by my blooms as I just took these as cuttings last Oct. Those are quite cute flowers you have there!

  • 7 years ago

    Your plumerias are beautiful, Rachel!


    Tom, you have clerodendrums. The second one is called pagoda flower sometimes. Very pretty and pollinators love them, but they will take over. You'll be digging sprouts forever.

  • 7 years ago

    Willie bloomed food me today. Named after my late father in law. Even have a special bloom with 6 petals.

  • 7 years ago

    Very nice Rachael!

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  • 6 years ago

    here's some updates

  • 6 years ago

    Im expecting new blooms any day from Suebee "typhoon". Looks like 1 branch is gonna be 4.

  • 6 years ago

    Wow! You have a seed pod! Mine still hasn't bloomed, and is probably going dormant now, but I haven't been fertilizing it like I should have. I'm sure it will burst forth in bloom. Yours are gorgeous. You've done a great job with them.

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you! I have to be honest I really have not done much on the fertilizer but I mixed it Osmocote in all the soil before I potted them all last Oct. The seed pod popped into sight once the flowers were not covering it up. Its the white one I call "Eddy" (Edward scissor hands) I may give a try to seeds once it ripens. I will post a pic of the new bloom once she reveals herself =)

  • 6 years ago

    Soooooo close. And I can just catch the scent to my surprise. Can't wait to gaze upon this one. :)

  • 6 years ago

    First 3 flowers. they ate amazing... even in the dark.

  • 6 years ago

    Lookin good, Rachael!

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  • 6 years ago

    So exciting they all rooted and now have beautiful flowers.

    I keep on trying no luck yet. I have been trying for years. Lol

    dont know what I. Doing wrong but I keep trying.

    Your posts have encouraged me.

    Thanks

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  • 6 years ago

    Sorry to hear you have had such troubles. You could go ahead a purchase a rooted one to give you some joy while you attempt to continue. Take a look at Brads buds & blooms. I received a beautiful cutting already rooted... all I had to do was place it in a container with soil.

  • 6 years ago

    I keep trying. I’m trying different suggestions I have gotten.
    I planted 6 cuttings in proper soil did not water. I thought next year I would have some kinda growth. No luck they are all soft wrinkles with black leaves.
    I will post if I ever get one to root.
    Thanks for the inspiration