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are we making a mistake? opening up a wall

7 years ago
We have a split entry home/raised ranch. I want to open up the wall between kitchen and dining so I can more easily see young kids during meal prep and have it be more open when we’re entertaining. On the peninsula we’d remove the 2” backsplash and add 6” piece, and add Granite’s to the top of the pony wall too.

Are we making a mistake?
Any advice or feedback?

Other factors:
Only the kitchen has a lofted ceiling.
The peninsula is not centered on the wall.
We are considering much larger Reno (loft other ceilings, completely open it up, turn our covered porch into living space and make a bigger island/redo kitchen floor).
The picture with green walls is inspiration.

Thank you!!

Comments (18)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    The concept is great. This is a job for a professional and I would encourage a GC to evaluate. Best wishes!

  • 7 years ago
    Absolutely - we will be working with a contractor. Just wanted to see if anyone had feedback or considerations were not thinking of.
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    "Just wanted to see if anyone had feedback or considerations were not thinking of."


    A floor plan would be necessary for this.

  • 7 years ago
    Or , a long window ?
  • 7 years ago
    If you’re planning a larger renovation soon, I would hold off.
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Wait until you find a designer to work with you and your contractor, you migt even need an architect since you are thinking of changing ceilings heights and making a porch a living space . I sure hope you are preapred for the cost of raising a ceiling.Not to mention a kitchen renovation.. IMO if you are going to remove a wall then remove the whole wall those little 1/2 walls are just really a dated idea.

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you!!

    Here’s a floor plan similar to ours/. We’d cut a hole in the circled red wall.

    The kitchen has a lofted ceiling, but the adjacent rooms do not. Knocking down the walls completely would be a much larger project because the hvac/AC system is up there: were not sure we want to do that major of a project (flooring, cabinets, hvac, electrical;, structural).

    The wall we would leave is load bearing across the whole house, so we don’t want to touch that wall).

    When we get started we’ll have an engineer and so everything to code.

    We can’t do a window because the peninsula in the kitchen is not centered on the wall. So from either the living room or the kitchen a window would look off center.

    The kitchen is in excellent shape, so doing a big renovation (knocking down all walls, loft ceiling, etc) seems not worth it if were not adding sq footage.

    My thought was spending a little now would improve usability of the house rather than doing a huge/major project.
  • 7 years ago
    @patricia the peninsula there would prevent us from opening up the wall completely. (Unless we got rid of peninsula but that would be part of a complete overhaul).
  • 7 years ago
    One more pic that shows the beams/ceiling heights.
  • 7 years ago
    I think the half wall will provide some separation of spaces. I think the whole open concept thing is over done. And frequently poorly done.
  • 7 years ago
    @mainenell agreed! To do this right we’d need to loft the ceiling of the whole space (and figure out what to do with AC) and redo flooring, remove the weird peninsula/island we have... which also involves electrical and hvac because there’s an electric heater in the peninsula toe kick... and replace the load bearing wall with a beam ($$). All in that’s a ton of work and money for not adding any Sq footage (and leaving the rest of the kitchen as-is, it’s in excellent condition).

    So we’ll see the cost for this smaller project if it’s worth it!
  • 7 years ago

    It's not a "small project". The load for that will need to be engineered and transferred with posts and beams down all the way through new foundation piers.

  • 7 years ago
    @greendesign I don’t think it’s load bearing because there are no walls below it in the basement, but we are definitely going to get a structural engineer.

    For now I was thinking the cutout would help things feel more open before we decide to completely redo the living space (or move).
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Even if it's a load bearing wall, you could put a beam in to hold the load. Or, even easier and less expensive, leave a piece of the wall as a support column like this.

  • 7 years ago
    @partim yes, that’s def an option thanks for drawing the pic! Our contractor supposed to come soon and get us a quote.
  • 7 years ago


    We did this in conjunction with a kitchen remodel. The kitchen was completely closed off from the dining room except for a single door opening. There was nothing in the soffit and the wall wasn’t load bearing so no issues taking it down to a half wall.

  • 7 years ago

    I just want to know why you are not removing the wall that opens into the living room rather than the dining room. Seems to me that would give a more open feel. Also could your open up both walls at the top and just leave the center beam?