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Hire Insurance Adjuster for claim after fire?

7 years ago
Our rowhouse including a brand new addition that were barely moved into, was damaged by a fire from the next door neighbor's rowhome.

We had a good deal of damage: Smoke damage through the entire upstairs (all ceilings and insulation to be replaced), some structural damage where a corner of our new addition caught fire, damage to brand new wood floors. Additional water damage occurred when the tarp put up by the remediation company failed when it rained a few days later causing water to leak downstairs into our brand new kitchen and into the basement below.

This is a nightmare and we are living in a hotel right now thanks to insurance coverage. In the meantime we want to get started with repairs and use the contractor who just did our addition - he wasn't even completely done yet!

First bid back from insurance undercut our contractor's $60k bid by $11k. We have some back and forth to go to get the estimates closer together, and think we will definitely narrow the gap, but I'm worried we will still end up a bit short in the end for what we fairly need.

I've read public insurance adjusters can help enormously in these situations, but they take a 10% cut at least? We can't afford to pay $6k of a $60k estimate to them, it would be the same out of pocket to us as not using a public adjuster and insurance still undercutting us $6k. Or am I not understanding how this would work?

Comments (11)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I've known a couple of people who had large fires and the adjusters got both significantly more than the insurance company offered. Talk to an adjuster and see. It was more than worth it for the people I knew.

  • 7 years ago

    That is how it works. Often the person you hire has worked with the insurance company’s adjuster. The insurance company’s representative’s compensation is based on how much they “save”. If you are unable to get quotes to counter the offer, you will be denied, and they have time.


    FWIW, google the insurance company you are dealing with. I have heard things from underwriters, adjusters, brokers.

  • 7 years ago
    I don't know the percentage fee paid to public adjusters, but I have always thought it was more than 10%. Perhaps the exact amount may vary based on services provided but be certain you understand the details before signing anything. Certainly, ask any potential adjuster to provide details about their previous experiences, especially with your particular insurer. If all they can provide is a bland statement about average payouts, ask how they calculated the numbers and ask to see some previous settlements. If the addresses and names are removed, it is not an invasion of privacy to see this info.

    I suggest a conversation with your agent. They have extensive experience working with claims and may be able to tell you how best to document your losses. Insurance agencies make money from your premiums, not from denying claims so they don't have the same incentive to minimize costs as the insurance company.

    In this case where a neighbor's issue caused problems for you, perhaps you may have a valid claim against their insurance company. You should consider doing more research before accepting that first offer because you will lose your leverage once you say OK.
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    7 years ago

    I so very much wish I hired one.

  • 7 years ago
    Jim Mat - most claim reps are salaried employees and are not paid by how much they “save” the carrier. WRT hiring a public adjuster - you can always see what they cost.
  • 7 years ago
    Thanks all - I get that they may get us a higher claim from insurance. I'm just not sure if it helps us to hire one? It seems we could and up with the same out of pocket:

    -we don't use a public adjuster and further negotiation with insurance leads to an amount that's within $6k of what our contractor's costs so we foot the difference for the rest

    -public adjuster gets us what our contractor bid or more but we have to pay the adjuster at least $6k or 10% of the amount that they get us
  • 7 years ago

    Shady, maybe things have changed, but I went to college with people who worked for insurance agencies and independents, both side were paid based on performance. My info is about 10 years old.


    JY doesn’t look like it pencils out for you. Do you have the resources to get well on the insurance proposal amount.

  • 7 years ago
    It's a mess. Insurance transferred us to new, large claims adjuster and it's like starting over. He walked through our house Tuesday and was supposed to get us a revised estimate by Friday and did not.

    The new guy talked directly with our contractor, but the conversation didn't go well. Insurance wants our contractor to further break down each line item for his cost of materials vs his cost of labor. Our contractor told us he will do that, but feels insurance is telling him what he actually should be charging for things like labor, and he will not bend to their pricing - that insurance unfairly prices labor in what it takes in perfect conditions of a brand new build, not dealing with imperfect conditions, uneven walls, beams, etc of our 90+ year old home.

    Insurance guy emailed us and agrees that contractor convo did not go well and basically implied now we have to use insurance preferred Paul Davis Restoration. Also basically implied we have to move from our hotel because this is going to take awhile now and the hotel is expensive. Then he didn't follow up that email with a phone call or respond to our phone calls. We are so very irritated by that email and lack of follow up!

    At any rate, whoever does the work, our concern is that they match exactly what was done in our brand new renovation that we had just barely moved into! For instance, we had beautiful new wood floors installed in our new open floor plan first floor, but part of them in the kitchen area got damaged from a failed tarp when it rained through a wall the firefighters ripped open. We need the replacement floors to match exactly so it looks seamless, like nothing happened, or will not consider ourselves fairly indemnified We want all trim work, crown moulding, replaced decking, etc to match what was just done in our renovation. Our contractor literally just did this work so we know they can and will redo it the same, but don't have the same faith in whoever we get through insurance.

    We may not have the funds to pay the public adjuster as we are already financially stretched at the end of a long renovation, but have reached out to one anyway and are waiting for a call back. In the meantime, we've also reached out to a lawyer (I have access to one as a work benefit), and will also be looking into talking with our states public insurance commissioner. We do feel insurance is bullying us a bit now and want to make sure we understand our rights and our policy.
  • 7 years ago

    Are you in the U.S? I ask because I live in Ontario, Canada and we used Paul Davis Systems for an insurance claim . The roof leaked less than 2 years later where they repaired it . I think they cut corners (and they were very expensive as well). They were the insurance

    preferred contractors

  • 7 years ago
    Yes, we are in the U.S.
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