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Soaker Hose Set Up with Rain Barrel?

I tried posting to the Irrigation forum, but not a lot of traffic over there.


I have rain barrels but I'm only filling watering cans and watering by hand. I'd like to use soaker hoses on raised veggie beds, but the water doesn't travel far enough to do that. I have the rainbarrels on one cement block.


I just read somewhere that you don't need a pump if your barrels are 12 ft off the ground, but, I can't see doing that with a heavy full rainbarrel. So I guess I am going to have to use a pump. I am 100% inexperienced beyond simple hoses and sprinkler.s I don't know if you have to have connectors or valves or if there are different sizes. It's all greek to me. [g]


I did see this product that is a solar pump and it looks fairly straight forward, and I hoped someone here on the forums had some experience setting up such a system?


Solar Rain Water Pump


I have five raised vegetable beds, I'm trying to water from rain collection. I thought if I ran a soaker hose down each bed, then I'd have to figure a way to connect them all together and then to the rain barrel. It seems like it should be simple so why do I feel like it's not? [g]

Comments (17)

  • 7 years ago

    does the rain barrel have an outlet near the bottom that you could hook up a garden hose to?

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked randy41_1
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    That's a clever device. But when I go online and look for it, it's out of stock everywhere I've looked.

    You need pressure getting the water to flow in a drip system (15-25 psi), and just getting the water to flow from one place to another in a hose isn't enough if you're using regular emitters. So a pump is smart. But you might want to check out this (page 8) -

    https://aces.nmsu.edu/pubs/research/agmech_eng/RR773.pdf

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Randy, I have a spigot on the bottom of the rain barrels - about 4-6inches from the bottom and outlets at the top to put tubing that connects the barrels or provides overflow, but not a spigot that you can connect a hose to.

    Dan, it does look really interesting, but I didn't try finding it. Out of stock? Too bad. I'll keep looking. That's a great link that covers a lot of information. Thanks.


    I found it on Amazon, but the reviews were not great.

    'Rain Perfect' Solar Pump


    It does offer alternative products on that page....


    This seems to be an electric pump, that a lot of people buy...

    Popular Electric Pump



  • 7 years ago

    When I've looked into information about drip irrigation, I keep seeing advice not to use sources like rain barrel water that might have particulates or algae that could clog the emitters. I don't know if soaker hoses have the same issues.

  • 7 years ago

    If you don't have 20 psi, you'll at least need low-pressure emitters. Low psi with high-pressure emitters means that nothing will come out.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
  • 7 years ago

    Have you tried connecting one of those foam soaker hoses to the rain barrel? You can try to remove the pressure regulator or buy soaker hose for a drip system that doesnt have a regulator. As long as the rain barrel is uphill from the garden bed, shouldnt some water slowly seep out? This would be more along the lines of letting it seep all day instead of just watering for a half hour or whatever one would normally do to reach 1" of water.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked Skip1909
  • 7 years ago

    So, it all seems to be about the psi - the water pressure. It seems unlikely I'd have 20psi without a pump. I'll have to find out what psi I would have with a pump. If I need low pressure emitters, that sounds like a drip system and not soaker hoses.


    I haven't heard of a foam soaker hose, I'll look into it.


    I had another question come up. I read on a gardening blog, that because the rain is coming off the roof, that the water is contaminated enough that I shouldn't use it on edible plants. Does anyone have any opinions on that?

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I wouldnt hesitate to use roof runoff on my garden but I havent looked closely into the issue. I would be looking for citations to support that claim.

    The foam soaker hoses are the ones you usually find in big box stores. They just kind of leak all along their length. The other type of soaker hoses have individual emitters evenly spaced along their length.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked Skip1909
  • 7 years ago

    Good idea, I'll see if I can find some back up for the idea there is a problem with roof run off on edibles.

  • 7 years ago

    i think 20 psi is way more then you need. 10 should be more then enough for drip tape like t-tapes.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked randy41_1
  • 7 years ago

    Randy - I guess 10psi would be a lot easier to achieve, but not really doing the math, I'm assuming that I'd still need to have it pretty high off the ground to achieve that psi with gravity alone. I have a level lot and with something as heavy as a full rainbarrel, I'm not going to attempt to elevate it beyond two cement blocks high, which is probably less than 3 ft off the ground. I'm guessing I will still need a pump. I am looking at getting an electric pump rather than solar, because all the solar pumps on amazon have less than great ratings from those who purchased them.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    That's a good point about t-tapes. Those are low pressure emitters, and work well from 5-15 psi. You get about half the output with 5psi than you do with 15. But you just keep it on twice as long. 10 psi will get you zilch with regular high pressure emitters.

  • 7 years ago

    http://www.rainbarrelsoakerhose.com/

    they claim it will work with just gravity.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Randy, thanks for that link. I tried to find it on Amazon so it would have reviews, it was there but only through the original seller and with no reviews. I did go back and read that site - and the video on that page was unavailable. But I did find an installation video here, and it shows it being connected to a rainbarrel on the ground......


    Rain Barrel Soaker Hose Installation Video

  • 7 years ago

    Don't worry about rainwater being safe for plants. All day, every day, you're breathing the same air that rain got any contaminants from. Many places, including much of Australia, use rain water collection from household roofs for drinking water, with or without simple filtration. Don't over think it. Filtration will further reduce your water pressure, and add complications. Your garden soil will be very happy with rain water, which is what it wants, though it wants it as regular rain, which doesn't happen.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked HighColdDesert
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Indeed, water coming off a roof is pretty clean. Washed by rain, and what is deposited there is mostly material that gets deposited everywhere. Including in garden beds and your lungs. There is bird poop, but that's raining down on all of your plants anyway.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)