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ID please for this plant

This is for same friend. As last plant ID request :-)

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  • 7 years ago

    I thought it was a Silver Dollar. Crassula ovata (?)

  • 7 years ago

    I looked up Cotyledon on a few sites that get recommended in here. The different species I saw are beautiful, including the orbiculata. The C. orbiculata had the exact leaf colouring, but when I zoomed in, it wasn't the same plant as my friend has and what I also have. And another succulent loving friend has shown me his same plants and called them silver dollars.

    So, confused, I googled silver dollar plant and up came the plant I'm familiar with. I picked one from a good site and it also said it was a Crassula (?) Jade. I took a screen shot, so I can get opinions. Like common names causing confusion. The plant I wanted ID on isn't in peak condition nor are mine after my bug problem, but I'll see if I can get a photo of my other succulent loving friend's plant.

    Meanwhile I'll put in my screen shot of the Crassula Silver Dollar.

    Now that is weird!!!

    It clearly says Crassula arborescens (Silver Dollar Plant), but the web address says what you said it is.

    Confusion reigns!!!

    I'll find the same photo in the same website to see what the rest of the web address says.

    Sorry this is so long :-/

  • 7 years ago

    Helen, your first pictured plant is not your second/third pictured plants.

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 7 years ago

    The problem with common names is that sometimes more than one plant has the same "nickname." Xerisicyos is also called the silver dollar vine. You can see three similar plants in this pot and notice the difference in color, leaf shape and how the leaves are arranged on the stem.

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked lgteacher
  • 7 years ago

    Cactusmcharris: Do you mean the photo I took of my friend's plant is a different Genus and species than the 2 screen shots that I showed you? You are probably right. I'd still like to show you one thing I found that adds to my confusion.

    the scientific name says it's Crassula arborescens and yet the Synonyms seem to suggest a link to the Cotyledon you said.

    What do you reckon? Is it possible that it's linked? Like a hybrid or something like it.

    Igteacher: Yes I only heard of completely different plants having the same common names when I came to this forum. I love your plants by the way. What's your thoughts on a Crassula arborescens having synonyms with "Cotyledon" in some of them. Isn't that a bit weird?

  • 7 years ago

    Helen, it’s due to taxonomy of a genus being refined through history. It looks like they’re listing all the names it had had, which are indeed confusing.

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 7 years ago

    Further to the post, here's a prime example. To add, almost any cactus, to use an example, has four to fourteen names throughout the ages. This is taken from Wikipedia:

    'Naming and classifying cacti has been both difficult and controversial since the first cacti were discovered for science. The difficulties began with Carl Linnaeus. In 1737, he placed the cacti he knew into two genera, Cactus and Pereskia. However, when he published Species Plantarum in 1753—the starting point for modern botanical nomenclature—he relegated them all to one genus, Cactus'


    So everything started with 'Cactus', and went to Hades from there.


    Although Crassula and Cotyledons both belong to the Crassulaceae, their morphological differences, including and perhaps most importantly the flower differences, sent them to different genera.


    I hope this muddies the waters less.


    Cheers,

    Jeff

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 7 years ago

    "Although Crassula and Cotyledons both belong to the Crassulaceae, their morphological differences, including and perhaps most importantly the flower differences, sent them to different genera."


    Until the taxonomic geneticists come along and decide that they really should be one and the same or decide to complete rename everything ..... :-)

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked Paul MI
  • 7 years ago

    Yes and thankyou to all. Waters are much less muddy. Also I had noticed the differences in the flowers as I was searching around, one with the typical Jade flowers the other with droopy down pretty ones. So I'm hoping they (to include mine) are the Cotyledon that you first suggested Jeff.

    Thanks all of you for your patience

  • 7 years ago

    I am against crasssulla arborescens, Its stems are more woody than depicted here. Ive owned an undulate one, and it doesnt grow like that. Its shrub/treelike like ovata.

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked Stefan
  • 7 years ago
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    I vote for Cotyledon orbiculata Powdery White. There are lots of varieties, though.

    Helen Agius (Adelaide,Sth Aus) USDA Z10b thanked lgteacher
  • 7 years ago

    Well guys - I'm convinced!! Thank you again!

    And out of all the Cotyledon that I found images of, I believe C. orbiculata is the only one that fits the the look of the plants/plant in question. I hope they flower :-))