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Black Casement Windows Privacy

7 years ago

Hi. We have black casement windows (black interior and exterior). We recently found out that we lose our warranty if we drill any holes in the window frames. While they are beautiful, there is no privacy in the evenings. There's no way to attach blinds inside the window frame without losing the warranty and they look a little different being framed in black....we found a few command strip hung blinds at Home Depot for a few of the smaller windows. The style of the house is "transitional"....a mix of traditional with modern clean elements so plantation shutters are a bit to bulky and busy. Plus, we have a couple of really large picture windows that would be difficult to cover. No way to command strip hang blinds on those. The builder suggested we have them tinted or frosted in someway, but we'd like to be able to see outside during the the daytime. We tried to buy some roman shades ( the picture windows needed 3 large roman shades to cover them). They looked like we hung towels or sheets down the wall since they needed to be mounted to the wall above the window instead of inside the window frame. They were missing something I can't quite put my finger on. We really didn't want the rooms cluttered with curtains, but I'm not sure what else to consider. Also..... The window cranks get in the way as well on the upstairs windows where the exterior wall is thinner. And every morning we wake up to condensation on the outside of most of these energy efficient windows (off topic, I know....oh...the weird things you don't know if you've never lived with casement windows. Missing my double hung windows now).

Back to the actual question...Anyone else dealt with this?

The most difficult room is a bedroom that has two tall windows flanking the bed area, a set of french doors directly across the room and a LARGE picture window on another wall. If we do curtains....that is so much fabric everywhere in one room. There are no walls left at that point.

Any pictures or suggestions are welcome.


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  • 7 years ago

    We need photos of your windows to be helpful.

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  • 7 years ago
    What brand / line of windows do you have? I ask because we have black int/ext casement windows and wondering if we’ll have the same issue. So this means you can’t do any inside mount window covering?
  • 7 years ago
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    They are jeldwen Windows. I'd need to look for the paper work for more info. Things have been a mess since we moved in. We called the manufacturer just for a bit of advice and they told us this little interesting information. We can't mount inside the window with anything that cuts or screws into the wood casing. I mentioned above that we found blinds that use command strips. Not my favorite because of our black frames but in a pinch they are keeping out the sun

  • 7 years ago
    Aw man that totally sucks. I’m sorry. What about curtains? I realize that picture window is massive- you’d probably need like 3-4 panels, you could use a tie to cinch them in the middle maybe, when not stretched fully for privacy? (Not sure how it would look, trying to think of ideas!) Another house in our neighborhood tinted their front windows. I’m assuming it was due to direct sun, but works for privacy as well without needing window coverings. Maybe that might be an option?
    Good luck!! Hope someone else has some better suggestions!

    Looking up our Anderson casement windows now to see if we have the same restriction!
    Chris thanked Kate E
  • 7 years ago

    For the tall bedroom windows, I would use drapes on a rod. You can have the drapes fall on the outside of each window flanking the bed instead of on each side of the window since they are so narrow. Put drapes on either side of the French doors, and then you could use the same fabric to make a simple roman shade for the picture window, like this example photo. If you use a linen fabric or something neutral it won't see like too much.

    10th Street · More Info

    Your back patio may not need coverings at all -it looks like you have shade from the overhang. In the other rooms, you could consider woven wood roman shades, which may give you a better look than fabric. The wide window likely needs drapes instead of shades if you need privacy. The three windows next to each other could also look nice with panels between them.

    Western Springs Living Room · More Info


    Chris thanked calidesign
  • 7 years ago
    Beautiful windows. Are the head, jamb and sill an integrated part of your window? In my 60’s home, my head, jamb, sill are part of the house framing covered in Sheetrock and plaster.
    Chris thanked Joy
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Joy, Calidesign and Partimos.

    They are part of the window itself.

    I've been running drapes, roman shades and you name it through my head. Finally thought I had a plan with the roman shades and i couldn't even hang them up when they arrived. I do think drapes would make the roman shades look a bit better, but we were trying to get away from the heavy aspects of our last home. With the two windows, picture window and the French doors in one room, it's going to be a ton of fabric. I've been leaning that way, but needed some affirmations. I think decissions have become quite a problem since we have made so many in the past year and we have a few regrets ( but they cost too much to "fix".) Been here for 4 months and nothing we owned quite fits anywhere ( and it's a ton of family heirlooms). Taking whole room pictures, reminds me of how little we've done and how nothing we have fits. :). Thank you for pictures and advice!!

  • 7 years ago

    Don't be discouraged with setting up your home. You might find it helpful to take photos of each of your furniture pieces separately, note the dimensions, and then think about how you might use them in different ways or different areas of your new home that you may not have thought of. For example, a short bookcase or dresser can become an end table, or chairs could be recovered to be used in different rooms. The antique table you have in front of your window in the phots is a very versatile piece. I've found it sometimes takes time in each new house to move things around, live with it awhile, and then try something else before the best solution presents itself. Or post photos of a room you want help with, and you may get some new ideas.

  • 7 years ago

    You are so nice! Thank you! That's great advice!!!!

  • 7 years ago

    The window treatments can vary depending on your privacy and light control needs, as well as how you'd like a certain feel for a room.

    I think linen drapes "feel" lighter, especially when they're similar in color to the wall behind them. I have a 6' slider in our bedroom where I used 4 Ikea Aina curtains on a "hotel" style rod that was on clearance at RH. Not sure if it's long enough for you. For a novice, it's kind of a pain to put up. Get the drapery rings on before the middle section!

    https://www.restorationhardware.com/catalog/product/product.jsp?productId=prod2970255&categoryId=cat9000211

    I know how you feel! My kids put cardboard in front of their bathroom window when taking showers and in the bedroom windows at night! Each need a different solution for privacy. I'm trying to think of any downsides before I order!


    Chris thanked alex9179
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks! If you have the ability to share a picture , please do. The cardboard situation Sounds familiar. My latest consideration is light matchstick roller shades... possibly mounted as high as a curtain rod ..(for privacy) flanked by breezy drapes. It might change tomorrow :o)

    We just recieved a few more of the command strip blinds ( not as cost effective as we'd like) so we can stop putting framed art work in the windows beside the bed every night. (The neighborhood lights make it hard to sleep.)...that'll help until we figure this out. So good to know that we aren't the only ones out there doing things like that!

  • 7 years ago

    Haha- you're not alone! These aren't room darkening. The only time I regret that is when the opossum visits and trips the motion light.
    I'm also using a simpler style with our remodel. My bronze windows and doors don't include the casing and I used drywall returns for the top and sides of the windows.

    Chris thanked alex9179
  • 7 years ago

    That looks really nice! The black casements we have were a rookie mistake for sure on our part. We could paint them white someday, but we have ended up liking them. So much we didn't know about windows! Wish we'd had better guidance, but sales associates aren't keen on explaining why we shouldn't buy their products or offering cheaper options. Thanks for sharing your pictures!

  • 7 years ago

    I think your windows look great. There are caveats to everything. I have 6' tall casements in my living room that I love for the breeze. One of them needs a treatment to address glare on the TV in the afternoon (so they both have to have it), even though they face north. I'd love to do the same thing as my bedroom but the curtains need to stack to one side, the distance is enough that all the rods I've looked at need a center support. That support negates being able to draw the curtain to reduce the glare! I'm looking at outside mount roller or folding shades, too. I just don't love the valance part and I don't want it to block any of the window for the other 22 hours in the day. Oh, and I don't want to "notice" the treatment because I love the dark frames and light walls.

    Please post what you've decided. It may be the answer to my dilemma, too.

  • 7 years ago
    So Chris, this is a statement my husband said to me almost 40 years ago. Newly wed, husband in construction, I was making the “perfect” home for us, hopefully to last years if not decades. Obsessing over decisions, trying desperately not to make any “mistakes.” And he said, “A home is never done.” I didn’t believe him, but he was right. I have been re-working my home for decades: remodels, interiors, corrections on boo boos. Sometimes a step forward, sometimes a step backwards. Life, it is a ride.
    Chris thanked Joy
  • 7 years ago

    Very true! Well put!! Thanks!

  • 7 years ago

    Just FYI, while you're deciding, you can buy temporary blinds at Home Depot for $5. They are white pleated paper, cordless, and they stick on the top interior of the window. It can give you privacy where needed, like the bedroom, while you're figuring things out and until whatever you order arrives.

    Chris thanked calidesign
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks! Just put up some very similar, but I think we missed the $5 versions.

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    7 years ago

    Hey Chris: Check us out at www.PleatedBlindsStore.com or give us a call at 619.665.9446 - we are specialized in window fashion made in Germany and solved many installation problems for Houzz Members here as you can read in our reviews...I am sure we can find a solution for your too...

    Chris thanked Fenstermann LLC