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Stem Re-Training

7 years ago

With the heavy rains' we've gotten, the LL are major floppers.

Some stems are still upright vert, but more 80% floppers

I'm fine with this on the hedges


On the trees, not so much


I've generally leave them alone, let them dry out and they normally resume back vert.


I have 2 treeforms that are a bit too *open* cupped from the primary branching off the main *stem* in the treeform shape.


Is this a feasible idea. Throw down a ring of stakes. Tie the stems back up so that they remain more VERT. Let them go dormant for winter. In theory, the stems may retain it's more vert shape.


---part of the open cupped is due to whenever they flop due to the rain, the remain flopped for bit. me thinks the cane then goes more into a outward shape--

Comments (11)

  • 7 years ago

    But I capitalized my short acronym . LL - Lime Light

    Had I wanted to say little lime, would have said ll. (LOL)

  • 7 years ago

    My thinking is Little Quickfire and regular along with Pink Winky are the Best non Floggers also the new Firelight...Just Saying

  • 7 years ago
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    I was waiting for someone to bring up the winterize and cardboard method ;-) I still can't wrap my head on that as the lowest stems that get snow mounded on mine, they more or less remain horizontal vs. VERT once they have been kept down.


    I ended up grabbing some stakes and gave it some tying. It ain't pretty but it will be a experiment I suppose.


    Hyed. I did see that post where you bought the LL tree this year. I did say to myself me wonders why you went the standard route ? In the pics with your multistem, you get many more branching

  • 7 years ago

    Hi a1an, have done the cardboard, works will bounce right back ...no more Winter protection just to much work... about the Tree at $90 i couldn’t PASS

  • 7 years ago

    Nice pic Hyed. My monitor must be breaking down. I see some blue blossoms ;-/

    I planted a new LL standard as well this year - cause I could not find a firelight and did not want to walk away empty. It's ahmazing that even it's 1st year, once get's blooms on them eh. Too bad it ain't blue. I guess one could always spray paint them .....

  • 7 years ago

    Paging Hyed. Just wondering since you're in the same northeast corridor. Is your standard budded or natural. How long was the main stem ?

    My 1st plantings of LL trees were natural but it seems like recent/current growing stock, seem to err on 2-2 1/2" ft high stems and budded stems. Me wonders is this a new northeast norm - then again, the local growers is probably not going to be the same local growers as you are (unless they all get their stock from someplace much warmer and plant them bare root )

  • 7 years ago

    Hi, a1an not sure of what your saying, when buying in May no buds , from ground to top it stands 68”

  • 7 years ago

    The -trunk- from ground to where branching starts. How high/tall is the trunk/primary stem before branching begins. Hope this makes sense

  • 7 years ago

    a1an.....30”

  • 7 years ago
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    thanx. May 2' - 2 1/2 is indeed the new northeast norm ?


    Oopsie. I missed you other reply. I meant to word it ~grafted~. The new norm on LL trees seen at the local nurseries seem to be all grafted and short stock. All the VS standards I looked at this year seemed natural. Only the LL were grafted stock