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Need help removing grass from landscape bed

Ryan M
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

I recently purchased a home, and unfortunately the landscape beds contain some well-rooted bermuda(?) grass. I purchased a stirrup hoe and started chopping away at the grass and roots a couple of days ago...I feel like some progress was made, but this doesn't seem like a long-term solution because the grass will just keep coming back since the roots seem to go way below... However, it doesn't seem possible to get ALL of the roots out on my own. See the photo (bottom left portion is the part that I worked on):



Below is a more zoomed-in version of the piece I worked on, just to show the kind of roots I'm dealing with (I raked the mulch toward the left after working with it, so that's why it's uneven)



I've heard some people suggest putting cardboard or newspaper down and then mulching over it, but won't that leave me with the same problem I have right now? Won't the roots eventually push their way through the newspaper?

So what's the best solution here?

Try harder to dig deeper and get more roots? Or just hoe off the existing grass around the surface level and do the newspaper thing, then mulch over it with some pre-emergent?

As you can see in the photos, I do have a healthy tree in the bed, so I'd like to avoid chemicals if it's possible.

Comments (15)

  • User
    4 years ago

    The newspaper blocks the light and that kills the grass. Here’s a How To article: https://dengarden.com/gardening/How-to-Kill-Grass-Without-Using-Chemicals

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    Yardvaark
    4 years ago

    The active ingredient in Round-Up, Glyphosate, is not harmful to nearby trees. It is taken in by FOLIAGE and translocated to the other plant parts, killing the plant ... but leaving the tree alone since you didn't spray it on tree leaves. Also, it has a relatively short shelf-life in and on soil, breaking down into harmless substances. It doesn't go on killing forever. But the light-smothering technique will work fine. It will just take longer.

    What you're doing by chopping up the Bermuda with a hoe is ... planting more grass. Each piece remaining in the soil will develop new roots and start growing again.

    That is, frankly, a bizarre bed shape, looking like it belongs in a mini-golf course. You might consider redesigning the bed shape while you're working on killing the grass. A circle or other simple shape would work much better.

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  • emmarene9
    4 years ago

    Considering the size of the tree trunk I think that bed is too large. Is having a bed here something you really want? The shape is bad too.

  • laceyvail 6A, WV
    4 years ago

    Spray with Roundup and reshape the bed.

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    Yardvaark
    4 years ago

    BTW, bermuda does not need to be killed just once, but it usually takes two or three times as it recurs, as there is a lot of energy stored in its roots. I would not rush to replant the bed, but observe it for a time and make sure the roots are killed. With the cardboard method, this takes time anyway.

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  • Peter Grimmer
    4 years ago

    Don't use glyphosate. Douse the green with strong vinegar, cover with newspaper and mulch. 6 weeks you'll be all set

  • User
    4 years ago

    Round Up isn’t harmless. Lots of studies and research on this. Especially harmful to the bee population https://www.weedkillercrisis.com/topics/roundup-weedkiller-vs-bee-populations/

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    4 years ago

    No pesticide is harmless....that's why they are called 'cides' (Latin, meaning killer). However, they do have value in today's world, when used in moderation and according to label directions. And glyphosate/RoundUp is among the safest, despite all the hype one can find online about it being so toxic (none of these reports are fully conclusive). One should never use any pesticides when pollinators or beneficials are present. But since pollinators have no interest in grasses, using it for this purpose is especially well-called for and not likely to be of any harm.

  • branson4020
    4 years ago

    You have a longer term problem. Whatever method you choose to kill the bermuda in the bed now - what will you do in the long term? Once you replant the area, how will you keep the bermuda out? I don't know if a pre emergent will deter the bermuda roots from infiltrating.

  • roselee z8b S.W. Texas
    4 years ago

    Well, it's not as entirely hopeless as all this sounds! If you want a planting around the tree I'd make the area larger, dig out all the grass and roots as you can, dig in some compost to improve the soil. plant it, give it a thick cover of mulch, and when Bermuda grass pops up give it a small spray of Ortho Grass b Gone.

    I don't like using "cides" of any kind, but since I have a mixed lawn of St. Augustine and Bermuda grass, which I didn't plant that way, but the Bermuda blows in, I have no choice.

    Grass b Gone doesn't harm broad leaved plants and kills Bermuda. It takes about a week for it to die, but die it does. I use G-b-G very sparingly, getting the nozzle close to the grass before spraying gently while holding my breath.

    After the bed is established I have very little problem with Bermuda infiltrating it. A brick, stone, or metal border and thick mulch helps keep it out.

  • Lesli Neubauer (South central TX zone 8b/9)
    4 years ago

    The problem is the bed is surrounded by Bermuda. I have this problem as well. My best suggestion is to postpone the flower bed, but since you have started plant St Augustine grass there instead. really indulge it with plenty water and fertilizer. After it grows and spreads it will completely choke out Bermuda grass. the come back and cut out the St. Augustine in the bed size you want taking care to leave the St Aug. a wide margin to keep Bermuda grass out. st. Augustine can be smothered with cardboard and compost mulch way easier than Bermuda grass.

  • tete_a_tete
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I don't use any poisons, and to combat my couch grass problem (Bermuda Grass is the same thing I think) I used layers of newspaper. I found the method fabulous.

    The newspaper layer physically prevents the beast from growing through. Without light, it cannot survive.

    You need a little patience, but it's nice to feel as though we are not contributing to all the poison that gets sprayed and splattered about.

    Sometimes a small piece of couch/Bermuda grass pokes it way up through the layered layers of newspaper. Fear not. When this happens, resist the urge to pull it out as that will tear the newspaper layers and allow more of the c/B grass to show their heads. You can simply cut off the offending pieces.

    Good luck.

  • Xtal in Central TX, zone 8b
    4 years ago

    While you are at it, consider increasing the size of the bed. You can't get much in there right now. Definitely cardboard. I've been doing it and mulching over the top with a lot of success.

  • zmith
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Even if you are successful in removing the Bermuda grass from the planting bed, you will be forever pulling it out of the bed as it surrounds the bed and WILL creep back in.